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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
the current GS already has over 15 cuft of trunk space.

I dunno how they eeked it out. but it has 15.

www.lexus.com/gs
Very interesting! According to Edmunds the GS only had 12.7 cu. ft. of trunk space up until the 2009 model year.
http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/gs-350/...res-specs.html

And then by 2010 that number magically became 15.2 cu. ft.
http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/gs-350/...res-specs.html

There must have been a recent change in the way EPA measures cargo volume or something, or it's almost unthinkable where that extra 2.5 cu. ft. can possibly come from. Did they take out the spare tire and call it trunk space?

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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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I like the interior for our 3GS more...
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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FKKKKKKKK. Just about threw up in my mouth. I am freeking sick and tired of those faired in exhaust tips. As stupid as this sounds, that single thing could be a deal breaker for me. And that one looks almost identical to the Mazda 6. Why would they want to copy that car????

Oh, thanks for the link.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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It'll be super cool if the GSF has a detuned version of the 4.8L V10
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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The reviews look very very promising... I've never seen so many reviews say a mainstream non-F Lexus handles well. It might become a contender for my next car in a few years the way it's shaping up.

I like the interior far more than I did the 3GS one when it came out.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by syzygy
"If Lexus is serious about this whole "fun to drive" business, you'd think a buttoned-down, high-performance GS with the thundering 416-hp, 5.0-liter V-8 from the IS F under the hood would be a no-brainer, but Lexus insiders remain cagey on the matter, merely pointing out the IS F engine is now relatively old, and that tough new fuel economy laws on the way suggest it might not have much of a future."

Any thoughts on this?
doesnt the rest of that article tell when to expect GS-F reveal? i think they said few months later on.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by marshmallo
The reviews look very very promising... I've never seen so many reviews say a mainstream non-F Lexus handles well. It might become a contender for my next car in a few years the way it's shaping up.

I like the interior far more than I did the 3GS one when it came out.
i would say that generally reviews were even more positive than IS-F.

i think GS might become best reviewed Lexus in history.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
i would say that generally reviews were even more positive than IS-F.

i think GS might become best reviewed Lexus in history.
Lexus seems to be on track to deliver a car that is as fun to drive as any of the Germans but with a higher quality interior, potentially more attractive/higher detailed exterior, better reliability, better resale value, better customer service and all at a potentially lower price. Simply put they may have created the best car in the class.

I wonder what they have in store for the next ES.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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Not feeling the BMW look
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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Great job Lexus! Showing off camo prototypes to the media before the official unveiling. The 3GS life cycle has been too long, and Lexus REALLY needed this positive bit of news . This gets the hype going and builds anticipation for the GS. Doesn't really hurt 3GS sales much since they are so low right now.

The traditional Toyota approach of being completely secretive until unveiling still works in some cases, just not this case. Toyota is being very secretive with the new Camry, and rightfully so, as they are the market leader with the Camry and don't want to give the competition anything about the new Camry until it's unveiled.

Really like the interior overall. Very clever use of camouflage tape in the interior. We see the overall interior, but the little details remain hidden for now. I am somewhat disappointed though with the gauges. They look somewhat plain, and I expected fancier gauges. Also disappointed with only one transmission offered for the gas model at launch, and one engine. Hopefully more powertrain choices are added in the future, but on the other hand that could be a repeat of the 3GS. As long as they add powertrains/transmissions instead of replacing them like they did with the 3GS, it should be fine. Fully adjustable front seat side bolsters sound great!

The exterior looks angry and aggressive even with the camo.

Oh and finally I have to say this is vindication with regards to all the critics and haters who criticized the 4GS relentlessly without knowing the facts. Shame on you. To those that claimed it was "impossible" for the new GS to have a 12 inch screen, those that claimed the new GS was using the same chassis as the 3GS, or those that claimed the 4GS would have a longer front overhang than the 3GS, you have been CLEARLY proven wrong.

New front and rear suspension designs, significantly wider front and rear tracks, more spot and laser welding over the chassis, higher strength steel used in critical areas of the chassis, great to hear! Sounds like the chassis was designed to easily handle V8 power . GS F here we come! Amazing that the wheelbase remains the same, car length is about the same, yet the car is wider and taller, seats positioned lower. This means very efficient interior packaging and quite a bit more interior room and trunk room without changing the exterior size of the car. Kudos to Lexus for keeping the GS a mid size prestige luxury sedan, and not making it bigger or heavier. The LS exists for that. Also 15.8 cubic feet of trunk space ? Genius move by Lexus. Improved interior space, better rear suspension *and* much improved trunk space, all at the same time.

Can't wait to hear detailed specs, and see the production version. Eagerly awaiting hybrid specs, GS F details, and possibly more powertrain choices.

The sleeping giant is fully awake people. The next-gen IS, ES, and LS should all be stunning as well. Hyundai Genesis has nothing on this new GS.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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initial 4GS press reviews are pretty favorable.

This is an interesting quote from InsideLine regarding the current GS-

"I'll probably get in trouble for telling you this," says Ben J. Mitchell, who participated in the gathering. "But our GS was all done at 110 mph."


He hesitates. We're sitting in a dimly lit steak house in Pasadena, California, and the Lexus product planning manager isn't sure he should say anymore. But he does. "It would have gone faster," he says of the 2006 GS, "but you didn't want to drive it any faster. The sedan's structure wasn't up to it. The doors started moving in their frames and the car just stopped being fun to drive."

Mitchell drops his knife and fork and grips an imaginary steering wheel in the 9 and 3 positions. "The Mercedes felt best," he says, pretending to steer a car delicately. "It was still easy to drive at 150."
He says the current GS feels scary and not confidence-inspiring at high speeds.
It's a shame they put out the 3GS, knowing it was inferior.


The InsideLine preview is a very interesting read.
the 4GS was benchmarked on bmw, benz, and even Porsche. So it will be a huge improvement in driving dynamics

and it's funny how InsideLine says that the 4GS driving turned bmw-like........ while the bmw now drives like a lexus.

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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Also nobody mentioned yet, looking at the front doors, it is a new speaker design. So, probably both a new base audio system and new ML system.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Not diggin that interior. Looks weird. Interior in the 3rd Gen is wayyyy better.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Also noticed the car will have 3-zone climate control, likely as an option. 3-zone climate control very nice, just a small step down from the LS 4-zone system, and a step up from the dual-zone system in the 3GS.
Old Jul 22, 2011 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
Also noticed the car will have 3-zone climate control, likely as an option. 3-zone climate control very nice, just a small step down from the LS 4-zone system, and a step up from the dual-zone system in the 3GS.
where?

p.s. what about those who said it wont weight as little? -400lbs on F10 baby.



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