Originally Posted by silo113

I hate that I appear to be the first, b/c no one believes it until later. And as the above poster stated...I have nothing to gain from lying (I do fine in my profession) I have only owned the car for 1 yr w/o any problems. I filed a complaint with National Highway Traffic Safety Administration this morning and he stated they have had issues reported where the cars were already stopped (not sure if Lexus or not). The issue (and why they have brought in a team of NASA engineers to study) is that the "black box" does not pick up anything out of the ordinary when scanned. Basically pointless to take into a dealer.

Not in so many words he said to continue to drive it, knowing to brake and shift to neutral if it happens again.

Originally Posted by Toymota

Like others have said, 6,000 rpm in Drive against the brakes would have exceeded the torque converter stall speed. If it was true, then the one-way clutch in the torque converter stator, or one of the clutches or brakes in the transmission could be permanently damaged now. I would tell Lexus to check these.

It could be (amongst all the other theories) an idle speed control valve malfunction, but I don't think it opens enough to make the engine go WOT. Just wondering since you said you had a rough idle afterwards.

Originally Posted by TWong1200

Well, i'd say more than 2000. This is when the torque converter stall speed comes into play. But yeah, it's interesting how it could possible rev that high and still be in gear.

Originally Posted by TWong1200

I couldn't agree more. These cars don't have IAC's anymore as everything is controlled electronically but, do you know if there's any sort of IAC-like device on the throttle body? Or does the throttle plate simply open slightly to allow more air?

Originally Posted by DaBeast

If you turn off the track control it will go over that RPM range no prob.

Originally Posted by IXI187IXI

if it was an issue for the GS how come everyone is suddenly starting to have these problems now? im not saying hes lying but its kinda odd that now all of a sudden these problems are popping up. the car is nearly 5yrs old and this is the first time its happened? They even mentioned that the GS is excluded from the list.

Originally Posted by apro4567

No dissrespect intended, but didnt Toyota also "mention" in the begining that the issue was soley a result of the floor mat and nothing else. Well, here we are a little while later with the basically the entire Toyota line recalled and 4 lives lost as a result of this issue with a Lexus. Toyota doesnt know what theyre doing quite yet, if they did these people would still be alieve. As for why its starting to act up now, we dont necesarily know that this is new. Its not like every single issue with these are going to make headlines, like this one we're talking about. The media is probably never going to hear about this... doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Originally Posted by rominl

to be exactly clear, the 4 who died in the es350, that was a floormat issue, nothing else. so in that case lexus / toyota were not lying about anything. as far as i know there is zero data from that accident indicating that the gas pedal was stuck by any reasons other than the floormats.

i am not defending lexus / toyota, they have problems and no denial on that, but just want to make sure everything is clear.

Originally Posted by rominl

to be exactly clear, the 4 who died in the es350, that was a floormat issue, nothing else. so in that case lexus / toyota were not lying about anything. as far as i know there is zero data from that accident indicating that the gas pedal was stuck by any reasons other than the floormats.

i am not defending lexus / toyota, they have problems and no denial on that, but just want to make sure everything is clear.

Originally Posted by CAK 500

I hadn't considered a possible link between TRAC and VSC with the high idling that I experienced.

I routinely have both off (I feel safer with full control and enjoy it more), but only started switching them off this Fall. I started getting the high idle this Winter, when temps were around 40 F or colder. Didn't think to try leaving them on to see if it made a difference ... too late now.

Anyone else drive in similar temps with TRAC and VSC disengaged experience unusually high idling at stops?

Originally Posted by GS350Lexus

Not to start an argument but there was no proven fact no where on the internet or TV that stated it was 100% floor mat issue. It could of been anything they are checking it and still not 100% sure its was the mat. They will tell you its the mat not to scare people, but honestly it can be something that we don't know about and neither do they. I hope all this BS settle's down soon, for the OP dude i hope everything goes good. Keep you're hand on the shifter at all times and be rdy to throw it into neutral. If by any chance u can take a video camera and tape it while in a safe area (like u are on a empty light or something would be great)

Originally Posted by GS350Lexus

Not to start an argument but there was no proven fact no where on the internet or TV that stated it was 100% floor mat issue. It could of been anything they are checking it and still not 100% sure its was the mat. They will tell you its the mat not to scare people, but honestly it can be something that we don't know about and neither do they. I hope all this BS settle's down soon, for the OP dude i hope everything goes good. Keep you're hand on the shifter at all times and be rdy to throw it into neutral. If by any chance u can take a video camera and tape it while in a safe area (like u are on a empty light or something would be great)

Originally Posted by kbeli

Agreed! Toyota said it was the floor mats with a . The NHTSA said not so fast.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...buked-on-mats/