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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by oldhotrod
As to this special order thread, maybe Rockville, or Liz at Longo Lexus can answer this one? I'm coming out of a Jaguar lease and they have special order ability for different colors/ interior combinations. Would it be possible to order a Mercury Metallic GS300 with a cashmere interior, since this is not one of the standard "approved" combinations. The 3 to 4 month wait and substantial up front non-refundable deposit are not a problem for us. My wife loved the Silver/Ivory combination in her Jag!!
My advice is to "be careful what you wish for", as they say. My RL has a silver exterior and taupe interior, which is also one of my favorite combinations, but it only works because the silver is a warm silver with shades of beige. The Mercury Metallic on the GS is a very cold silver (with shades of blue???), so it probably wouldn't look very good with the Cashmere interior. And if I'm not mistaken, Cashmere is more tan than the Ivory interior in the Jag.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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if you want something like this, why don't you go buy an accord or a camry? the main reason I bought a lexus was for ALL these features.

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Hello. Can someone tell me what the reason for not being able to ordr the base car is? It has all the standard thigns i am looking for. I dont need the sunroof, the Adaptive front lighting system, rear shade, spoiler, or the wipers package, or ventilated seats. Just the base 42,900 car. I went to a local dealer and said if the car starts at 42,900, why can i not order and wait for that car? He said most ppl want a package or some options and the 45,500 car is what the base really is. I said that I understood what he meant and demand makes production decisons and so on and so forth. I told him, evenw ith all this i should be able to order the car i want, shouldnt i? i will wait 4-5 months or however long it takes. He said they will still nto make a car like that in the factory in japan. If they say it starts at 42,900, i must be able to buy it then, somehow or someway then, right?


Can someone explain what the deal is with this? Why im not even able to special order the car that i want even if im ready to wait? Who would i have to talk to about this?


your help is appreciated
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Lexus is the #1 selling luxury nameplate in the United States. We knocked BMW and Mercedes off that throne several years ago. BMW is trying to compete with us, not the other way around. The few people on this forum wanting a base car represent a small percentage of other buyers. There is nothing wrong with getting something the way you want it, especially for such a large sum of money. However, majority rules here and Lexus is still a business. They are building what the majority wants, but they are just as happy to comply with special requests.
Depending on the definition of luxury, a Cadillac salesperson could make the same claim.

Acura alreay has the "no configuration changes allowed" maket cornered and it seems most companies are heading that way. There's nothing wrong with playing to the masses but just think how many more sales Lexus could rack up if special orders were as easy as BMW makes it..
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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"but just think how many more sales Lexus could rack up if special orders were as easy as BMW makes it.."


This one of the reasons why Lexus has a better price point. They streamline their operations and mass produce making these cars much less $$.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jpa2400
This one of the reasons why Lexus has a better price point. They streamline their operations and mass produce making these cars much less $$.
And the one extreme example of this is Acura.

This is so different in Europe where custom ordered cars rule (even the cheaper ones) vs. the US where the "package" deal is king.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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There's nothing wrong with playing to the masses but just think how many more sales Lexus could rack up if special orders were as easy as BMW makes it.
Most likely a small percentage if any. Not justifiable in terms of sales and profitability. Streamline is defnitely the keyword. You throw special order into the mix and you get one of many things like slower production numbers, higher costs associated with changing up the order of operations and distribution, declining profit. It's easy for a consumer point out what they want but people forget the operation aspect of it.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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frebay: if you want something like this, why don't you go buy an accord or a camry? the main reason I bought a lexus was for ALL these features.


The reason i want the base car is because it actually has everythign im looking for. All the standard features is all i need. I dont a navigation sysyetm to tell me where to go. I can find that out myself. I dont need a rear camera. I can see where im backing up to. I dont need mark levinson surround sysytem. The premium sound sysytem is plentiful. I dont need rain senstitive wipers. The regualr wipers r more than enough to get rid of rain ovr my windhsield. I dont need a rear sunshade. Tinting the car is perfect enough. I dont need adaptive front lighting sysytem to help me move thru the way on a curve. I have been driving for 15 years and can see where i am going without that. I dont need a moonroof because i have nor eason to open the top for air coming in nor do i want to stand up whiel soemoen else is drivign my car. I dont need ventilated seats blowing in my rear when the a/c in the GS will be excellent enough.

With all this being said, i understand what u mean by telling me to get an accord or camry as all those things will do the same things. But my point is simple. Im gettnig to own and drive a remarable vehicle that is equipped with plentiful standard thigns that show its beauty. (no doubt all these extra things add to the beauty) but the 42,900 vehicle has thigns like wood steering and wood on shifter. it has HIDs standard. 6 disc changer. perforated leather seats. MID screen which shows a lot of cool things. In short i am savign about 7k dolalrs getting a base car over the fully optioned car. Allt he stuff in the fully optioned car - most of that stuff has a standard subsitute or is an added amenity. And the other stuff i have no use for - for my purposes. So why should i spend an extra 7-8 K dolalrs on thigns which i knwo i really wont care too much for. When i knwo i wont really need all that stuff....its a waste ofor me to buy it. And at the same time - like i said...the standard vehicle has things that already make the car gorgeous. And im also saivng that much money versus getting all that stuff which i dont need.

Not to sound rude towards you my friend, but 43K and 50K is quite a big of money difference and if the base car is equipped the way it is..(which it obviously is) Its perfect...all those extra amenities have other means. Thus, the 43K car is equipped with already plentiful things to make it an awesome buy. Its a lexus...and it still has the quality crafstmanship, remarkable detailing, rich and beautified interior and exterior styling, plentiful luxury.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Longo Lexus
GSrwdwow,
If you have money and time, special ordering is possible. Like Rockville said ask to speak with a manager or try another dealership. Special orders are time consuming and a risk for dealers.
They wanted me to do a Special Order for getting a vehicle with Pre-Collision(PCS). But I think it's because they just didn't make it into the first batch, not because no one would want them.

I didn't wait for it, but I love the feature.

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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by oldhotrod
As to this special order thread, maybe Rockville, or Liz at Longo Lexus can answer this one? I'm coming out of a Jaguar lease and they have special order ability for different colors/ interior combinations. Would it be possible to order a Mercury Metallic GS300 with a cashmere interior, since this is not one of the standard "approved" combinations. The 3 to 4 month wait and substantial up front non-refundable deposit are not a problem for us. My wife loved the Silver/Ivory combination in her Jag!!
Some combinations are not offerred. It would probably look nice yet it is not on my production listing. Sorry about that.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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Depending on the definition of luxury, a Cadillac salesperson could make the same claim.
Really? Because last year Cadillac sold 230,000 cars to Lexus' 287,000, what else could they lump in to that number?
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by frebay
if you want something like this, why don't you go buy an accord or a camry? the main reason I bought a lexus was for ALL these features.
Wow! Brutal group!
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by frebay
if you want something like this, why don't you go buy an accord or a camry? the main reason I bought a lexus was for ALL these features.
Please be respectful of individual needs. You may want the options and that is great but not everyone does. He merely asked a question. He never said the car was bad or the options were bad. He just does not want/need them. He wants to drive a Lexus. That is his prerogative. Enjoy your new car and let him build the car he will enjoy.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Hey Frebay, you're enjoying it aren't you? You are the Sh_t! As I have said before and I will repeat again the drive is the number one feature on this GS. I will trade the drive for any or all of the toys. Sometimes I like to just drive with the audio off and the windows down and feel like I am part of the enviroment. To each his own bliss....
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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I remember the old days when I used to go car shopping with my parents. You could pick the color of the car, the interior color, what options you wanted. Pretty much like what you can do when building the car on the websites. The difference is, the car would take maybe a few weeks to arrive if they didn't arleady have one. Now, we pretty much are stuck with what is on the lot or we have to wait months for our cars. When I bought my 04 RX330, I really wanted the black interior, but my dealer had none in the exterior color I wanted. I ended up settling for my 2nd choice of light gray interior. While I don't mind the gray interior, still today after 2 years and 35Kmiles I still wish I had a black interior. Why didn't I wait the 3 months for my car to get built? Well, my wife was having a baby and I couldn't wait that long. It was so much easier for customers back then. Now it is eaaier for the dealers and the customers get what is on the lot or they have to wait and put down a lot of extra money just to consider special ordering.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LexusPride
Really? Because last year Cadillac sold 230,000 cars to Lexus' 287,000, what else could they lump in to that number?
If you go by the definition that says a luxury vehicle must sticker for at least $42K (IRS number adjusted for inflation at which the old luxury tax would kick in) then Caddy outsells everyone.
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