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Hey guys,

Quick question! I am very interested in dropping my 02 GS, but don't want to get to crazy. I am new to all of this, and I have never been a "stance" guy. That being said, I have a buddy who has been feeding me numbers left and right so much my head hurts hahahah. He is pushing for me to go 19 x10 with a +15 offset in the front and 19 x 11 with a +15 offset in the rear. The tires he wants me to run are 235/35 front, and 265/30 rear. He has shown me pictures with a GS with close to this fitment. Can anyone tell me how much I'll have to do to fit this? I am full prepared to stretch and roll my fenders btw. Thanks in advance guys!
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Originally Posted by dcz
Wheels and Tires Fitment Guide

98-05 GS300/400/430
01-05 IS300
02+ SC430

Author: rominl

Creation Date: 3/2/2004

Modify Date: 10/26/2005 (SC430 information)

Introduction

After modifying my 1998 GS400 over the past 19 months, I have learned a great deal of information about the car and aftermarket parts. It's amazing just how many stuff you can find out there for the 2nd generation GS. If you are willing to spend the time and effort you can easily build up a GS that's not only special but unique.

Among all the parts I have put on my car, wheels are definitely one area that requires tons of study and research in order to get a setup that's perfect for your taste and style. Make one mistake and you can be stuck with wheels that don't fit well, rub, or even hit your brakes. It's very different from getting other parts for the car, where you just decide on the model and that's it. With wheels, you have to decide on the diameter, width, offset, and disk type. On top of that for the tires you also run into the same problems on tires as well.

I have had countless of people coming to me and ask about the fitments for their cars, so I have decided to compose this guide, which hopefully can give some pictures on how you should choose a fitment for your car. Please note that I am just speaking from my experience so sometimes I could be wrong or the setup isn't perfect.

Definitions

First of all I want to go over some definitions, some of them are official and some of them are just my terms. But I think they are very helpful.

First of all is offset. If you have no idea what wheel offset is, please read the link from TireRack below. It's extremely helpful:

TireRack Offset Description

Offset is definitely the most important area when it comes to choosing your wheels, and it goes side by side with the widths of the wheels.

Another thing to keep in mind is the disk type. This is very crucial when you plan to have big brakes on your car. Keep in mind, if you want to see whether big brakes (Brembo, AP Racing, Stoptech, Endless) will fit under the wheel, the disk type of the wheel is the more important. Offset might have something to do with it but disk type is the most important. You need high disk setup in order to clear the huge brake calipers. With medium or low disk setup you will probably get more lips on the wheels but most likely you won't be able to fit any big brakes.

Most people with wheels they lower their cars as well. There are a lot of way to measure how much a car is lowered, but when it comes to lowering and wheels fitment, I think the "finger gap" theory works pretty good (mainly because overall diameter of the wheel with tires could be different from a setup to another, and the wheel gap (the gap between the top of the tire and the fender) is what determines whether you might rub or not.

I would measure the wheel gap by finding out how many finger(s) you can stick in the wheel gap by placing your finger(s) horizontally. This is important, horizontal, not tilted or angled. Usually each finger is about ½ inch from my experience (of course each person's fingers are different, but this is a good ballpark). So say you have 1 finger gap that means you have about ½ inch gap, if you have 2 then it's about 1 inch gap.

Last definitions would be fender rolling and trimming/shaving. Often times when you want to put on aggressive setup on the car, you are required to work on the fender a little bit in order to avoid rubbing (when the wheels get way too close to the fender). On the GS and the IS, I strongly suggest trimming or shaving the fender rather than rolling. Rolling fenders on the GS and IS could be very risky since you might easily crack the paint, while shaving you can get the same result but it would be very easy to control and it is harder to crack the paint. There will be another article about fender trimming and shaving on the GS and IS.

GS wheels fitment

The stock GS 17" wheels, as far as I know, are 17x8 with 235/45/17. I have owned two sets of aftermarket wheels for the car, 19" VolkRacing AV3 19x8.5 +38 front and 19x9.5 +38 rear, and now I have the 20" HRE 540R 20x8.5 +32 front and 20x10 +43 rear. I would classify my 19" setup as a conservative setup as it doesn't flush totally with the fender but have zero rubbing issue, whereas with the HRE, the setup is very aggressive and is flush perfect with the fender, but has slightly rubbing which was fixed relatively easy.

The following are the wheel sizes that I would suggest for the GS (if you don't want to have a staggered setup, just put whatever for the front in the back). When I say the setup is conservative, it means you don't have to do any fender modification. When I say aggressive, that means you probably have to do the rolling or shaving. And in the case of professional, then some major suspension changes would have to be made in order to fit the wheel, and should be left to professionals hence I won't go over how here.

18" Difficulty
18x8 +32 18x9 +32 conservative
18x8.5 +38 18x9.5 +38 conservative
18x8.5 +38 18x10 +44 conservative
18x8.5 +32 18x10 +42 aggressive
18x9 +38 18x10 +42 aggressive
18x9 +35 18x10 +35 professional

19" Difficulty
19x8 +32 19x9 +32 conservative
19x8.5 +38 19x9.5 +38 conservative
19x8.5 +38 19x10 +44 conservative
19x8.5 +32 19x10 +42 aggressive
19x9 +38 19x10 +42 aggressive
19x9 +35 19x10 +35 professional

20" Difficulty
20x8.5 +38 20x9.5 +38 conservative
20x8.5 +38 20x10 +44 conservative
20x8.5 +32 20x10 +42 aggressive
20x9 +38 20x10 +42 aggressive
20x9 +35 20x10 +35 professional

** on 20" wheels for the GS, keep in mind that the wheels are out of spec so the overall diameter is off by about 6%. Your speedometer would be off, meaning that when the speedometer says 80mph, you are actually going at around 85mph already. Plus, because of the 1" larger diameter overall compared to 18" or 19" (with tires), you have to be careful with your lowering. From my experience, if you lower your car to 2 fingers, provided that you have the correct offset, you shouldn't rub (or very slightly) the top of the wheel well. If you go 1½ finger gap or less, when going over uneven road or dips, you will most likely rub the top part of the wheel well. Over time you will see part of the rubber wheel well flap got rubbed away. Moreover, with 20", you will rub when you put your steering wheel at full lock (either left or right) and mostly when backing up. This is due to the bigger diameter and when you turn, you rub the front and back of the wheel well (this is one reason why 20" are the biggest rims you can put on the GS with reasonable widths).

When it comes to tires for the GS, the following setup are preferred:


Wheel Size Tires Within Spec?
18x8 235/40/18 245/40/18 yes
18x8.5 245/40/18 yes
18x9 245/40/18 255/40/18 yes
18x9.5 275/35/18 yes
18x10 275/35/18 285/35/18 yes
19x8 235/35/19 245/35/19 yes
19x8.5 245/35/19 yes
19x9 245/35/19 255/35/19 yes
19x9.5 275/35/19 yes
19x810 275/30/19 285/30/19 yes
19x8 235/40/19 245/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x8.5 245/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x9 245/40/19 255/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x9.5 275/35/19 no (fat setup)
19x10 275/35/19 285/35/19 no (fat setup)
20x8.5 245/35/20 no
20x9 245/35/20 255/35/20 no
20x9.5 275/30/20 no
20x10 275/30/20 285/30/20 no

Keep in mind different brands of tires, even with the same profile, will be different too. So for very marginal setup (read: aggressive), the tires might provide the 1 or 2mm that makes all the difference. Tires like the Bridgestone SO3 and Dunlop P9000 are very rounded and "meaty". The rounded corners will help to avoid rubbing. On the other hand, from my experience, Nitto, Pirelli, Yokohama, etc... tires are very "square" so they might enhance the rubbing factor.

IS wheels fitment

I believe the IS stock wheels are 17x7 +50 with 215/45/17. Because of the more compact design, getting wheels for the IS300 would be a lot more crucial in order to avoid any unnecessary rubbing. I don't have any wheels on my IS300 at this point but I will do my best. On the IS300, 19" is the biggest you can go. Doing 20" on the IS300 would require tremendous amount of suspension work and in my opinion it's not worth it.
18" Difficulty
18x7.5 +40 18x9 +50 conservative
18x8 +46 18x9 +50 conservative
18x8 +40 18x9 +50 aggressive
18x8 +40 18x9 +55 aggressive

19" Difficulty
19x7.5 +40 19x9 +50 conservative
19x8 +46 19x9 +50 conservative
19x8 +40 19x9 +50 aggressive
19x8 +40 19x9 +45 aggressive


For tires on the IS300 it's even more important because of the tight wheel well setup. The following are the tires I would suggest (and it highly depends on the tire choices too):

Wheel Size Tires
18x7.5 225/40/18
18x8 225/40/18
18x9 255/35/18
19x7.5 225/35/19
19x8 225/35/19
19x9 255/30/19

If you want extreme fitment, the max you can do would be 19x8.5 in the front with 235/35/19 and 19x9.5 rear with 275/30/19. But I won't be disclosing any offset information here for certain reasons.

SC430 Wheels Fitment

Since November of 2004, I have become a proud owner of the SC430. One of the biggest complaints from most SC430 owners is the stock wheel design. The design from 2002 to 2004 (so called pie-plates) was just not pleasing at all. With the 2005 wheel cover changed to 5 spoke style, it looks a lot better. And in 2006 they once again changed the design and now it's a full alloy 18" setup, no more wheel covers.

Regardless, the stock wheel setup on the SC430 is even more conservative than that you can find on the GS, especially the real wheel where it's sitting very inboard. Visually this is not appealing at all. For sure getting better looking wheels at the correct size and offset becomes a highly discussed topic.

For the record, the stock SC430 wheels they are 18x8 +45, and they are wrapped with 245/40/18 tires. Keep in mind that most SC430 come with run-flat tires and also the tire pressure sensors. Run-flat tires have super thick sidewall for the support, that's why they ride very harsh. A lot of members have complained about the ride of the SC430, saying that it's very stiff and not comfortable. Little do they know that it's all about the tires, by changing the tires to normal all-season or high performance tires, the ride will drastically improved. Moreover, because of the tire pressure sensors, when shopping for aftermarket wheels, you want to make sure you can retain the sensors still. Please check with your wheel suppliers for more information. If you decide to run aftermarket wheels without tire pressure sensors, the warning light will come up on the dash.

Of all the information I have gathered, I have read that 19x9.5 +45 fits on the SC430 no problem, front and back. Granted this setup is extremely conservative and it's far from being flush with the fenders in the back, it's a very good baseline for calculations.

Currently I am running 20x9 +30 with 255/35/20 and 20x10.5 +29 with 285/30/20 on my SC430 without any fender modifications. It's pretty much as aggressive as you can go without modifications, and the SC430 is actually not very friendly in this manner, since both the front and rear fender lining are "integrated" with the fender lip, you can't just shave the lip and call it a day without spending time with the lining as well. I would suggest against this.

And for wheel size, I will only talk about 19" and 20" setup. 18" is the same as stock and personally I think 19" is the minimum.

19" Difficulty
19x9.5 +45 19x9.5 +45 conservative
19x9 +24 19x10 +24 aggressive
19x9.5 +30 19x10.5 +30 aggressive
19x9 +30 19x11 +36 professional

20" Difficulty
20x8.5 +18 20x10 +24 aggressive
20x9 +24 20x10 +24 aggressive
20x9 +24 20x10.5 +30 aggressive
20x9.5 +30 20x10.5 +30 aggressive
20x9 +24 20x11 +36 professional

There are several things I want to point out. First of all, besides the "weak" setup I mentioned, all other setups I put down aggressive as the minimum difficulty. The reason is with those sizes, tire choice plays an important role. Getting the right brand and sizes of tires is the key for no rubbing. If you want any conservative setup, you can just get the aggressive setup and add 6 to 10mm of offset for more room.

For 20", you actually run into the "typical" problem of rubbing the top of the front wheel well lining, just like what you face when putting 20" on the GS. However, on the SC430 it's actually worse since the lining is even stiffer, has more "*****", and there are more places for rubbing. As long as your car is lower to around 2-finger gap, I can pretty much guarantee rubbing the top of the wheel well with 20" wheels. Mine does, but after a while the lining will be rubbed away, leaving a small hole there and everything will be back to normal.

In terms of tires, my suggestions would be as follows:

Wheel Size Tires Within Spec?
19x9 245/35/19 255/35/19 yes
19x9.5 255/35/19 yes
19x10 275/30/19 285/30/19 yes
19x10.5 285/30/19 yes
19x11 295/30/19 yes
19x11* 305/30/19 slightly over
19x9 245/40/19 255/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x9.5 255/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x10 275/35/19 285/35/19 no (fat setup)
19x10.5 285/35/19 no (fat setup)
20x9 245/35/20 255/30/20 no
20x9 245/30/20 255/30/30 yes
20x9.5 255/35/20 no
20x9.5 255/30/20 yes
20x10 275/30/20 285/30/20 no
20x10 275/25/20 285/25/20 yes
20x10.5 285/30/20 no
20x10.5 285/25/20 yes
20x11 295/25/20 yes
20x11* 305/25/20 slightly over

* Please keep in mind, if you want to run 11" wide rim in the back with 305 series tires, you want to add couple of mm to your wheel offset since the tires are wider. Otherwise you run into great risk of rubbing.

And again, different brand and model of tires have different shapes, curvatures, corners, thickness, etc… and all these contribute to how well the overall wheel package clears the fender. All setup here are aggressive, meaning that they are close to the fender walls. You definitely want to be careful and study enough to make sure you purchase the right combo.

Conclusion

Hopefully this is a good guide for everyone who is thinking about getting wheels and tires setup for your GS, IS, or SC430. Getting a perfect set of wheels is very hard I have to say, it involves a lot of researching and patience. Don't rush in finding your set of wheels.



I Looked for a wheel fitment guide on the forum for a while. I couldnt find it till someone pointed me in the right direction. Hopefully this will help out you guys that dont know much about offsets (like myself). I did not do this write up and I am not taking credit for it. I am simply putting it up for others to look at. The original work is found on this page: http://www.lgwnorcal.net/articles/wheelfitment.html

What about konig ssm
Front:
18x8 Offset: 45mm

Rear:
18x9 Offset: 50mm

Front Tires:
215/35/18


Rear Tires
265/35/18
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Originally Posted by dcz
Wheels and Tires Fitment Guide

98-05 GS300/400/430
01-05 IS300
02+ SC430

Author: rominl

Creation Date: 3/2/2004

Modify Date: 10/26/2005 (SC430 information)

Introduction

After modifying my 1998 GS400 over the past 19 months, I have learned a great deal of information about the car and aftermarket parts. It's amazing just how many stuff you can find out there for the 2nd generation GS. If you are willing to spend the time and effort you can easily build up a GS that's not only special but unique.

Among all the parts I have put on my car, wheels are definitely one area that requires tons of study and research in order to get a setup that's perfect for your taste and style. Make one mistake and you can be stuck with wheels that don't fit well, rub, or even hit your brakes. It's very different from getting other parts for the car, where you just decide on the model and that's it. With wheels, you have to decide on the diameter, width, offset, and disk type. On top of that for the tires you also run into the same problems on tires as well.

I have had countless of people coming to me and ask about the fitments for their cars, so I have decided to compose this guide, which hopefully can give some pictures on how you should choose a fitment for your car. Please note that I am just speaking from my experience so sometimes I could be wrong or the setup isn't perfect.

Definitions

First of all I want to go over some definitions, some of them are official and some of them are just my terms. But I think they are very helpful.

First of all is offset. If you have no idea what wheel offset is, please read the link from TireRack below. It's extremely helpful:

TireRack Offset Description

Offset is definitely the most important area when it comes to choosing your wheels, and it goes side by side with the widths of the wheels.

Another thing to keep in mind is the disk type. This is very crucial when you plan to have big brakes on your car. Keep in mind, if you want to see whether big brakes (Brembo, AP Racing, Stoptech, Endless) will fit under the wheel, the disk type of the wheel is the more important. Offset might have something to do with it but disk type is the most important. You need high disk setup in order to clear the huge brake calipers. With medium or low disk setup you will probably get more lips on the wheels but most likely you won't be able to fit any big brakes.

Most people with wheels they lower their cars as well. There are a lot of way to measure how much a car is lowered, but when it comes to lowering and wheels fitment, I think the "finger gap" theory works pretty good (mainly because overall diameter of the wheel with tires could be different from a setup to another, and the wheel gap (the gap between the top of the tire and the fender) is what determines whether you might rub or not.

I would measure the wheel gap by finding out how many finger(s) you can stick in the wheel gap by placing your finger(s) horizontally. This is important, horizontal, not tilted or angled. Usually each finger is about ½ inch from my experience (of course each person's fingers are different, but this is a good ballpark). So say you have 1 finger gap that means you have about ½ inch gap, if you have 2 then it's about 1 inch gap.

Last definitions would be fender rolling and trimming/shaving. Often times when you want to put on aggressive setup on the car, you are required to work on the fender a little bit in order to avoid rubbing (when the wheels get way too close to the fender). On the GS and the IS, I strongly suggest trimming or shaving the fender rather than rolling. Rolling fenders on the GS and IS could be very risky since you might easily crack the paint, while shaving you can get the same result but it would be very easy to control and it is harder to crack the paint. There will be another article about fender trimming and shaving on the GS and IS.

GS wheels fitment

The stock GS 17" wheels, as far as I know, are 17x8 with 235/45/17. I have owned two sets of aftermarket wheels for the car, 19" VolkRacing AV3 19x8.5 +38 front and 19x9.5 +38 rear, and now I have the 20" HRE 540R 20x8.5 +32 front and 20x10 +43 rear. I would classify my 19" setup as a conservative setup as it doesn't flush totally with the fender but have zero rubbing issue, whereas with the HRE, the setup is very aggressive and is flush perfect with the fender, but has slightly rubbing which was fixed relatively easy.

The following are the wheel sizes that I would suggest for the GS (if you don't want to have a staggered setup, just put whatever for the front in the back). When I say the setup is conservative, it means you don't have to do any fender modification. When I say aggressive, that means you probably have to do the rolling or shaving. And in the case of professional, then some major suspension changes would have to be made in order to fit the wheel, and should be left to professionals hence I won't go over how here.

18" Difficulty
18x8 +32 18x9 +32 conservative
18x8.5 +38 18x9.5 +38 conservative
18x8.5 +38 18x10 +44 conservative
18x8.5 +32 18x10 +42 aggressive
18x9 +38 18x10 +42 aggressive
18x9 +35 18x10 +35 professional

19" Difficulty
19x8 +32 19x9 +32 conservative
19x8.5 +38 19x9.5 +38 conservative
19x8.5 +38 19x10 +44 conservative
19x8.5 +32 19x10 +42 aggressive
19x9 +38 19x10 +42 aggressive
19x9 +35 19x10 +35 professional

20" Difficulty
20x8.5 +38 20x9.5 +38 conservative
20x8.5 +38 20x10 +44 conservative
20x8.5 +32 20x10 +42 aggressive
20x9 +38 20x10 +42 aggressive
20x9 +35 20x10 +35 professional

** on 20" wheels for the GS, keep in mind that the wheels are out of spec so the overall diameter is off by about 6%. Your speedometer would be off, meaning that when the speedometer says 80mph, you are actually going at around 85mph already. Plus, because of the 1" larger diameter overall compared to 18" or 19" (with tires), you have to be careful with your lowering. From my experience, if you lower your car to 2 fingers, provided that you have the correct offset, you shouldn't rub (or very slightly) the top of the wheel well. If you go 1½ finger gap or less, when going over uneven road or dips, you will most likely rub the top part of the wheel well. Over time you will see part of the rubber wheel well flap got rubbed away. Moreover, with 20", you will rub when you put your steering wheel at full lock (either left or right) and mostly when backing up. This is due to the bigger diameter and when you turn, you rub the front and back of the wheel well (this is one reason why 20" are the biggest rims you can put on the GS with reasonable widths).

When it comes to tires for the GS, the following setup are preferred:


Wheel Size Tires Within Spec?
18x8 235/40/18 245/40/18 yes
18x8.5 245/40/18 yes
18x9 245/40/18 255/40/18 yes
18x9.5 275/35/18 yes
18x10 275/35/18 285/35/18 yes
19x8 235/35/19 245/35/19 yes
19x8.5 245/35/19 yes
19x9 245/35/19 255/35/19 yes
19x9.5 275/35/19 yes
19x810 275/30/19 285/30/19 yes
19x8 235/40/19 245/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x8.5 245/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x9 245/40/19 255/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x9.5 275/35/19 no (fat setup)
19x10 275/35/19 285/35/19 no (fat setup)
20x8.5 245/35/20 no
20x9 245/35/20 255/35/20 no
20x9.5 275/30/20 no
20x10 275/30/20 285/30/20 no

Keep in mind different brands of tires, even with the same profile, will be different too. So for very marginal setup (read: aggressive), the tires might provide the 1 or 2mm that makes all the difference. Tires like the Bridgestone SO3 and Dunlop P9000 are very rounded and "meaty". The rounded corners will help to avoid rubbing. On the other hand, from my experience, Nitto, Pirelli, Yokohama, etc... tires are very "square" so they might enhance the rubbing factor.

IS wheels fitment

I believe the IS stock wheels are 17x7 +50 with 215/45/17. Because of the more compact design, getting wheels for the IS300 would be a lot more crucial in order to avoid any unnecessary rubbing. I don't have any wheels on my IS300 at this point but I will do my best. On the IS300, 19" is the biggest you can go. Doing 20" on the IS300 would require tremendous amount of suspension work and in my opinion it's not worth it.
18" Difficulty
18x7.5 +40 18x9 +50 conservative
18x8 +46 18x9 +50 conservative
18x8 +40 18x9 +50 aggressive
18x8 +40 18x9 +55 aggressive

19" Difficulty
19x7.5 +40 19x9 +50 conservative
19x8 +46 19x9 +50 conservative
19x8 +40 19x9 +50 aggressive
19x8 +40 19x9 +45 aggressive


For tires on the IS300 it's even more important because of the tight wheel well setup. The following are the tires I would suggest (and it highly depends on the tire choices too):

Wheel Size Tires
18x7.5 225/40/18
18x8 225/40/18
18x9 255/35/18
19x7.5 225/35/19
19x8 225/35/19
19x9 255/30/19

If you want extreme fitment, the max you can do would be 19x8.5 in the front with 235/35/19 and 19x9.5 rear with 275/30/19. But I won't be disclosing any offset information here for certain reasons.

SC430 Wheels Fitment

Since November of 2004, I have become a proud owner of the SC430. One of the biggest complaints from most SC430 owners is the stock wheel design. The design from 2002 to 2004 (so called pie-plates) was just not pleasing at all. With the 2005 wheel cover changed to 5 spoke style, it looks a lot better. And in 2006 they once again changed the design and now it's a full alloy 18" setup, no more wheel covers.

Regardless, the stock wheel setup on the SC430 is even more conservative than that you can find on the GS, especially the real wheel where it's sitting very inboard. Visually this is not appealing at all. For sure getting better looking wheels at the correct size and offset becomes a highly discussed topic.

For the record, the stock SC430 wheels they are 18x8 +45, and they are wrapped with 245/40/18 tires. Keep in mind that most SC430 come with run-flat tires and also the tire pressure sensors. Run-flat tires have super thick sidewall for the support, that's why they ride very harsh. A lot of members have complained about the ride of the SC430, saying that it's very stiff and not comfortable. Little do they know that it's all about the tires, by changing the tires to normal all-season or high performance tires, the ride will drastically improved. Moreover, because of the tire pressure sensors, when shopping for aftermarket wheels, you want to make sure you can retain the sensors still. Please check with your wheel suppliers for more information. If you decide to run aftermarket wheels without tire pressure sensors, the warning light will come up on the dash.

Of all the information I have gathered, I have read that 19x9.5 +45 fits on the SC430 no problem, front and back. Granted this setup is extremely conservative and it's far from being flush with the fenders in the back, it's a very good baseline for calculations.

Currently I am running 20x9 +30 with 255/35/20 and 20x10.5 +29 with 285/30/20 on my SC430 without any fender modifications. It's pretty much as aggressive as you can go without modifications, and the SC430 is actually not very friendly in this manner, since both the front and rear fender lining are "integrated" with the fender lip, you can't just shave the lip and call it a day without spending time with the lining as well. I would suggest against this.

And for wheel size, I will only talk about 19" and 20" setup. 18" is the same as stock and personally I think 19" is the minimum.

19" Difficulty
19x9.5 +45 19x9.5 +45 conservative
19x9 +24 19x10 +24 aggressive
19x9.5 +30 19x10.5 +30 aggressive
19x9 +30 19x11 +36 professional

20" Difficulty
20x8.5 +18 20x10 +24 aggressive
20x9 +24 20x10 +24 aggressive
20x9 +24 20x10.5 +30 aggressive
20x9.5 +30 20x10.5 +30 aggressive
20x9 +24 20x11 +36 professional

There are several things I want to point out. First of all, besides the "weak" setup I mentioned, all other setups I put down aggressive as the minimum difficulty. The reason is with those sizes, tire choice plays an important role. Getting the right brand and sizes of tires is the key for no rubbing. If you want any conservative setup, you can just get the aggressive setup and add 6 to 10mm of offset for more room.

For 20", you actually run into the "typical" problem of rubbing the top of the front wheel well lining, just like what you face when putting 20" on the GS. However, on the SC430 it's actually worse since the lining is even stiffer, has more "*****", and there are more places for rubbing. As long as your car is lower to around 2-finger gap, I can pretty much guarantee rubbing the top of the wheel well with 20" wheels. Mine does, but after a while the lining will be rubbed away, leaving a small hole there and everything will be back to normal.

In terms of tires, my suggestions would be as follows:

Wheel Size Tires Within Spec?
19x9 245/35/19 255/35/19 yes
19x9.5 255/35/19 yes
19x10 275/30/19 285/30/19 yes
19x10.5 285/30/19 yes
19x11 295/30/19 yes
19x11* 305/30/19 slightly over
19x9 245/40/19 255/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x9.5 255/40/19 no (fat setup)
19x10 275/35/19 285/35/19 no (fat setup)
19x10.5 285/35/19 no (fat setup)
20x9 245/35/20 255/30/20 no
20x9 245/30/20 255/30/30 yes
20x9.5 255/35/20 no
20x9.5 255/30/20 yes
20x10 275/30/20 285/30/20 no
20x10 275/25/20 285/25/20 yes
20x10.5 285/30/20 no
20x10.5 285/25/20 yes
20x11 295/25/20 yes
20x11* 305/25/20 slightly over

* Please keep in mind, if you want to run 11" wide rim in the back with 305 series tires, you want to add couple of mm to your wheel offset since the tires are wider. Otherwise you run into great risk of rubbing.

And again, different brand and model of tires have different shapes, curvatures, corners, thickness, etc… and all these contribute to how well the overall wheel package clears the fender. All setup here are aggressive, meaning that they are close to the fender walls. You definitely want to be careful and study enough to make sure you purchase the right combo.

Conclusion

Hopefully this is a good guide for everyone who is thinking about getting wheels and tires setup for your GS, IS, or SC430. Getting a perfect set of wheels is very hard I have to say, it involves a lot of researching and patience. Don't rush in finding your set of wheels.



I Looked for a wheel fitment guide on the forum for a while. I couldnt find it till someone pointed me in the right direction. Hopefully this will help out you guys that dont know much about offsets (like myself). I did not do this write up and I am not taking credit for it. I am simply putting it up for others to look at. The original work is found on this page: http://www.lgwnorcal.net/articles/wheelfitment.html

What about konig ssm
Front:
18x8 Offset: 45mm

Rear:
18x9 Offset: 50mm

Front Tires:
215/35/18


Rear Tires
265/35/18

On 01 lexus gs300
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So would 18x8.5 et 30 front and 18x9.5 et30 rear could work out?
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These would go on a 2000 gs300
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Originally Posted by OGgs300
So would 18x8.5 et 30 front and 18x9.5 et30 rear could work out?
I'm running 18x8.5/9.5 *effective offsets of +10 front and +20 rears. Fender lips shaved off considerably aggressive drop.
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Okay coo. Are your tires stretched at all. I can't tell from the picture.
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I just want a lil poke, not too much camber, meat on my tires (very lil stretch or non at all) and no mods to the fenders, and a decent drop. Nothing crazy just feel the gap between wheel n fender.
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Default wheels and tires...

I love your thread about wheel fitment. I have a Lexus 2002 GS430 and I'm experiencing chrome peel on my 17 inch factory wheels AND I need to get new tires so I'm kind of in a jam to pick out some new wheels and tires ASAP. I've always loved OZ racing wheels and I'd like to get something more age/ model "appropriate" for my car (ie not wanting the same wheels my son would like on a more current model). I like a more "factory" modified look which is why I choose the L-tuned mode package.

Do you have any suggestions for an OZ Racing wheel in an 18 x 8 or 19 x 8 non staggered? I do like the deeper dish so if you had a staggered suggestion I might go with it if it looks really amazing.

Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing what you have to say!
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if i want to run some 19 in rims and have the wheels being tuck with extremely minor fender rolling or non at all. and staggered wheels, so maybe 19x9.5 and 19x10 what would my offset need to be around? i want the stance vip look but still a very nice comfortable car as a daily and maybe a .5 camber on the back not anything to the extreme. im still very new to wheels setup and would like to learn. any help would be very appreciated. thank you/
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Hello everyone. New to the forum and to the Lexus community.

I recently purchased an 02 IS300 with rolled fenders and lowered (Too low for me). I'm going to be getting a set of HKS Adjustable Coilovers and raise the height a little. I'm wondering on what wheel spec I can run. My specifications are the following:

**Car currently has TT Front Calipers and Stock Rear Calipers**
18x9/9.5 in the Front
18x10 in the Rear
(I like fatter tires but I'm struggling to find 17's that wide, car will be a weekend warrior and tracked).


I'm assuming that I need a +48 to +55 Offset for the front and rear. I want the tire to be able to tuck inside the fenders upon turns or on bumps. A slightly stretched tire may be in the works but I just need some help with this. Thank you guys.

-Chill

PS: Pics would help.
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Default looking for ride comfort...smaller wheels & tires with more sidewall?

I own a 2005 SC...the stock tires and wheels are still on the car. Like most everyone, I believe they suck, so...



probably unlike most on this forum, I'm more interested in a comfortable ride.

I understand from reading the posts the ride is noticeably improved with standard tires opposed to the run flats . However, I'm wondering if a huge improvement might be made if I went to 16 or 17 inch wheels instead, allowing for more tire sidewall. also, are there any std/stock lexus or Toyota wheels that I could consider with the same bolt pattern thanks for your input!
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Question, I'd like to run 18x8.5 + 32 up front and 18x10 + 42 in the rears on my Gs300. I'm going to be going reasonably low (no wheel gap) and am primarily after a flush look, what tyre setup would be ideal? i'm just struggling for ideas, open to suggestions of whatever might look good!
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225/40 in front and 245/40 or 255/35 in the rear

Those wheel specs won't be flush though.
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Okay so i've been researching for a while and have come up with these specs i'd like to have fit. Hopefully someone here with more experience can let me know if this is possible or can guide me in the right direction.

I want to run 18x9 + 20-22ish wrapped in 225/40/18 up front and and have 18x10 +25-30ish wrapped in 245/40/18 in the rear.

Will these fit decently well? i don't want to have major fender adjustments done, i know they wont sit 100 percent flush but i was thinking of filling the void with some spacers


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