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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cliffud
guys- the gs3 is known to get 20mpg under normal driving... the v8 GSs get slightly higher simply because the gearing is more efficient.
Do you have the specs on the gearing?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Both the GS300 and the GS400 uses the same transmission. However, the final drive is different. The GS400 uses the 3.26 ratio while the GS300 uses the 3.92.

Where the GS300 saves gas by having less cylinders, the GS4 saves gas by turning at a lower rev.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AUGuy21
Are you putting in premium gas? GS' should not be run on regular. Like he said, if it only took $46.00 to fill up, I suspected you are only buying 87 octane or not filling up completely. If you're using 87, you're car is not going to run as smooth and you'll get less mileage. It cost me $58.00 to fill up w/ premium this week when my tank was bone dry.
No regular in my whip...premium the last time that I filled up was $3.06. Wouldn't dare downgrade
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by macd7919
Well check this out.

Figuring gas at $3.25 a gallon, you are putting in 14.15 gallons for $46. You are getting 275mi from 14.15 gallons which equates to 19.43 miles per gallon mixed highway/city. Honestly I think thats exactly where it should be. I mean, I did an all highway trip averaging in the 60mph range for about 1000 miles. I got 23.5 mpg on the trip using premium gas (which I assume your using as well). So you seem like you are right in range with where you should be

Btw- Take this into account, if you are in the city and sitting in traffic (more sitting than just the average stop and go) you are just burning fuel while being basically stopped, that will eat way into your mpg.

Using the breakdown above if it's only costing you $3.06 a gallon that means you are putting in 15.03 gallons. That drops you down to 18.3mpg mixed...still not too bad I don't think. Are you doing alot of really slow stuff, like sitting in rush hour traffic? If so thats really going to put a hurt on your mileage. "City" is meant more like stop and go, not like stop-stop-stop-go know what I mean?

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Old May 7, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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I would recommend using a gas treatment for the next couple of times you fill up. I have a 430 and I'm getting about 325-350 a tank. I use STP gas treatment often, sometimes every other fill up.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by macd7919
"City" is meant more like stop and go, not like stop-stop-stop-go know what I mean?
HAHAHA good analogy... Would you have any advice for a GS300 with about 250 per tank. I drive about 70/30 city/highway. I dont have a heavy foot. I'm not usually in heavy traffic either. I was thinking of getting the fuel injectors cleaned but I didn't want to do it & not get better mileage.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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I'm in the sam boat as rayy...but I have the 400. I still get only 250 miles out of my tank! I'm doing probably 70/30 city/highway driving. I don't understand, I clean my K & N filter (FIPK Intake) every 3-4 months, I cleaned my throttle body 5 months ago, I got a fuel injector service at the dealership about 4 monthsd ago, and I put about 3 Techron fuel system cleaners within the last 4 months time. What's the deal??? Even when I drive like a grandma I still don't get anymore tha 260 miles and the needle is slightly below "E." I don't know what else to do...can it be my torque master plugs??? And what about this fuel filter? I keep hearing everyone say that it NEVER needs to be replaced and it doesn't get cleaned manually - sounds weird to me. For all I know I could have a major blockage in there. Help guys, tell me what's the deal...
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rock-a-Lex
I'm in the sam boat as rayy...but I have the 400. I still get only 250 miles out of my tank! I'm doing probably 70/30 city/highway driving. I don't understand, I clean my K & N filter (FIPK Intake) every 3-4 months, I cleaned my throttle body 5 months ago, I got a fuel injector service at the dealership about 4 monthsd ago, and I put about 3 Techron fuel system cleaners within the last 4 months time. What's the deal??? Even when I drive like a grandma I still don't get anymore tha 260 miles and the needle is slightly below "E." I don't know what else to do...can it be my torque master plugs??? And what about this fuel filter? I keep hearing everyone say that it NEVER needs to be replaced and it doesn't get cleaned manually - sounds weird to me. For all I know I could have a major blockage in there. Help guys, tell me what's the deal...

Wow, I'm surprised you're not getting much better because I've done all the same things as you. I consistantly get at least 320-330 miles every tank. I've even got 350 before with more than average highway driving. Thats with the power button on about half the time.

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cleaned throttle body & MAF
K&N filter - clean it about 8-10 months
fuel injector cleaner - around every 6000 miles
18" rims- not sure on weight but they're not too light
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Old May 8, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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my 400 gets about 310-320 per tank now.........Just paid $61.00 for a fillup the other day. $3.84 per gallon up here in da yay area. I have stock 17" though.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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What can it be then...something with my MAF sensor? Hmmmm it's not throwing any codes though...any suggestions?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock-a-Lex
What can it be then...something with my MAF sensor? Hmmmm it's not throwing any codes though...any suggestions?
Nick, it's probably the way we drive in the city, my mpg SUXS (anywhere from 10-14mpg) in the city, I thought it was a problem and was getting ready to put the car in the shop. But this weekend on the trip to Carlisle I averaged 22.9mpg on the highway and considering I had a passenger, my 19's and new sub in the trunk along with other gear it makes me believe that I'm the one that needs to change, not the car.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Thanks for the insight Cliff; can't wait to see that bodykit on your whip... To all NY members out there let us know your MPG figures? Perhaps it IS just New York...
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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i get 340 miles before the light comes on and i drive a 300. I'm about 40city/60hwy though.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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i use half 87/half h20 with 1 can of sweet corn seems to be working fine
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Old May 8, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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IIRC believe the problem with the fuel filter is that it is in the gas tank. Most newer cars have it in the gas tank.

Why? I have no idea.
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