I would like to thank Percy, GS34me and TXGS for their help with my ML question. I'm not getting all the facts from the dealer this web site is a great source of owner experience and information. I appreciate your help thanks.

The dealer told me that Lexus does not build a GS with a NAV and/or NAV/ML option, the car has to be ordered? Is this true I find it hard to believe that Lexus doesn't load the cars up and send them to the dealers? Any of you folks with NAV or ML optoin buy them off the lot?

 

Lexus has their standard packages - you can see them on the Lexus.com site and at Edmunds and Kelly's web sites. There is a package with just the ML. However, Lexus builds what the regional marketing companies (I believe there are 4 in the U.S.) order for each region's inventory. What your dealer said translates to "The US regional marketing companies generally don't order GSs with ML or NAV alone. They order them as a package."

In the Southeast all GSs come with wood/leather steering wheels and the ones that have NAV also have the ML. Does Lexus make ML/NAV cars without having to special order them? Yes. You just need to find one in your marketing area. And right now there are very few GS430s being built without special orders anyway since most of the 430 engines are going to LSs and SCs.

I have a GS with ML without NAV, but since it's a Southeast car and I didn't want the wood/leather steering wheel I had to order it to get ML and the leather wheel. Since I ordered it I could have had it with or without the NAV.

 

I found my GS3 with NAV/ML on the lot, although they're not easy to find. I was there at the right time, and since then I've only seen one other on the lot with the same package.