bitkahuna

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not sure where rogerh00 is in FL (big, long state), but google maps says miami to nyc is an 18hr drive. unless you have 2 drivers, that's 3 days of driving for most people, maybe stops in georgia and virginia for example. unless the hotel has charging then 5 hours is added onto the driving for charging, but going with your point, let's say that one can align half that charging time with stops needed anyway, but it's still an additional 2.5 hours charging and waiting around. At 70mph that's 175mi. of driving time wasted. If those 2.5 add-on hours represented two charging stops, a gas car would accomplish same in 10 minutes.

you're right, nothing you can say will convince me that the EV trip is convenient.

EVs are great for day trips, commuting, etc. they (CURRENTLY) suck for long distance trips. Sure there's lots of videos and anecdotes of enthusiastic (mostly young people who don't have to stop often to pee, lol) people embarking on long distance ev adventures and embracing the novelty of it and the adventure of monitoring the charge status, navigating to charge stations, etc., but i would find none of that appealing when i'm just trying to travel a long distance.

I've no doubt that situation will improve in coming years but it's not good today.

Toys4RJill

We did Savannah to Rochester in one shot in 2019. 4am to 10pm. I think that was 3 fill ups to get to get back. This was the longest one day trip of my life. I can’t imagine having to plan around a charging station along the way. Sure we made multiple stops on the way…but we stopped whenever the heck we felt like it (coffee, snacks, washroom). But there was just thought of gas stations when did that.

FatherTo1

There is also zero out-of-pocket solar like we have. We pay for the power generated from solar, just like you pay for electricity from your utility company. You get the benefit of solar, cheaper rates than utility (and utility company pays you back for surplus that you generate), and absolutely zero upfront costs and the maintenance and any repairs are handled by the solar company. I had the solar inverter replaced twice in seven years, absolutely no cost to us.

Tesla actually owns our solar panels now after SolarCity bought out our original provider, Paramount Solar. I think Elon was on the board of directors for SolarCity before Tesla acquired it.

FatherTo1

I agree. I used to desire quality leather and appreciated what the LS 460 offered, but I’m over the maintenance and perceive it differently now. The whole dead animal skin look has lost its appeal and I don’t mind synthetic or vegan “leather” at all and actually prefer it. I remember being quite impressed with Lexus NuLuxe too and found it supple and very comfortable with great durability.

EZZ

That's a great situation you're in. Solar is absolutely a no brainer ROI in many's situations. Just have to do the math. My breakeven is 5-6 years and the panels will last about 30 years or more (25 yr warranty). So after 5 years, electricity is free. So I'm saving $3k+ on electricity and $3k on fuel from using an EV. I actually built enough overhead for another EV so if the new tax credit is enacted, I'll get another EV and save another $3k on fuel per year.

rogerh00

I used a Mach-e as my vehicle as it is the only EV I would even consider buying at this time. Redoing the route with a model Y you are correct it takes about 5 hours of charging with 12 stops and 23 hr-19m driving. I'm not against EV's I just don't think they are ready for prime time yet especially Teslas on the East coast.

rogerh00

Good post, I agree with everything you say. Also, to clarify I am an empty nester who only owns 1 vehicle. There is no way I could rely on a Battery vehicle as my only means of transportation in Florida and for long distance trips. A Tesla is probably the least desirable due to quality and service here and lack of charging stations except on the Interstate which I try to avoid.

Question, How many Tesla owners here is the EV their only vehicle????

AJT123

That interior is a joke. I'd laugh every time I got into that thing.

patgilm

I am going to Orlando for vacation after this week and I may try and rent a Tesla from Turo to see if I like it. I’ve only been in a Model S and have never driven an EV before so I think it would be cool but they aren’t cheap to rent for a week so we will see.

EZZ

You gotta rent the Plaid version.

If that isn't available, at least get the Model 3 Performance.

Hameed

Do you live in an apartment/condo? If you do, then it makes sense to not get any EV, much less a low quality, interior that makes one laugh - Tesla.

I have only one car and it's an EV, a Model S and I have a garage with my house that I charge it in.

Toys4RJill

I just looked up the Canadian spec Y. $69,990. Definitely not a $69k interior I can’t believe full self driving is a $10,000 option.

I agree with this. Battery EVs can’t possibly the only solution.

bitkahuna

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I think your household though has another vehicle, right?

bitkahuna

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congratulations! Looks good in that pic. The new dark side trim (instead of the old chrome) looks better and it looks like you have windows tinted (?).

bitkahuna

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Especially when it's not full self driving, lol.

It adds highway navigation "self driving"* - meaning it knows where to exit and will do so, parking lot "summon" (which i sure as hell wouldn't trust and given how slow it moves i could walk there and back to the car 3 times), and a few other features.

* - you still have to keep your hands on the wheel anyway.

I don't think it's $10K worth of value and I bet the take rate isn't that high.