Tesla business discussion
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The reason Tesla is eating luxury cars lunch is they all turned their cars into Tesla clones with the no button interiors and Alibaba ipad screens! BMW even eliminated the gear shifter in the 3 series lol
The build quality and interior materials on new luxury cars is much worse than the generation prior. New Sclass is perfect example. Bmw has removed ton of features for 2023 while raising prices etc.
Teslas are much cheaper and are considered cool so ppl are ditching their Cclass or 3series for them.
The build quality and interior materials on new luxury cars is much worse than the generation prior. New Sclass is perfect example. Bmw has removed ton of features for 2023 while raising prices etc.
Teslas are much cheaper and are considered cool so ppl are ditching their Cclass or 3series for them.
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Im just a data point, but I just got rid of my BMW X1 for a Model Y after the price decrease. And I was shopping it against the Q4 Etron or even contemplating on the new X1 EV if/when it made it to the US.
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To be fair, Model 3 is comparable to Camry/Accord. That's my opinion but 3ers don't seem to think so. I wonder what they think is a reasonable brand/model to compare to.
Does it mean... "people leave BMW for Tesla... because they get more bang for their buck" or "Model Y and X1 are comparable"?
Does it mean... "people leave BMW for Tesla... because they get more bang for their buck" or "Model Y and X1 are comparable"?
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The reason Tesla is eating luxury cars lunch is they all turned their cars into Tesla clones with the no button interiors and Alibaba ipad screens! BMW even eliminated the gear shifter in the 3 series lol
The build quality and interior materials on new luxury cars is much worse than the generation prior. New Sclass is perfect example. Bmw has removed ton of features for 2023 while raising prices etc.
Teslas are much cheaper and are considered cool so ppl are ditching their Cclass or 3series for them.
The build quality and interior materials on new luxury cars is much worse than the generation prior. New Sclass is perfect example. Bmw has removed ton of features for 2023 while raising prices etc.
Teslas are much cheaper and are considered cool so ppl are ditching their Cclass or 3series for them.
If they stick to quality interiors, that would have been the differentiator.
Teslas dominance has much to do what other brands are doing, without Tesla doing anything special themselves.
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So I had my first experience with FSD today in my Model Y loaner. It wasn’t bad but like any driver assistance it still is just ok, still finicky and shut off at one point. There were also a few times I had to correct it which basically shuts it off and you have to set it again. To me the regular autopilot is enough and if I spent $12k-$15k I would be pissed. To each their own…
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Lol that's insane 🤣. I don't know where this is, but I would have just drove to an EA where the non member guest price is .44 cents per kWh. I would roughly estimate that more than $20 a gallon lol
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But to think that these companies have the power to gouge prices this high is concerning no? Chances of this happening is probably very low but what's stopping others to follow and charge crazy high prices during a "peak" period.
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Free market. In Canada. The charging rates jumped 70% overnight.
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I don't know what it's like to own an EV yet, but seeing that is very Cringe.
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right now. It’s $.50 a minute to charge.
“When you join us along Canada’s Electric Highway, pay $0.50 per minute while you charge, with no connection or idling fees,”
Consumer Reports says it is cheaper to fuel a hybrid than it is to charge a EV on the east coast in Boston areas
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I've owned and been traveling with EV'S for the last two years and I have no idea who Blink is. The big charging companies like EA and EVgo etc that the majority of EV owners use have been charging the same rate. I would compare this to driving through a small town and stopping at the only mom and pop gas station and paying $8 a gallon and $5 for a bag of Doritos 😅
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Funny you say that, I got a text today from a friend that is traveling down to North Carolina with his Model 3P and he mentioned that since he has been paying for charging while traveling he said the savings weren’t much compared to gas with the range he is getting. He is saving money but it’s not much. I think charging at home is best.