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Jan 12, 2023 | 01:25 PM
  #301  
Quote: Damn....

Tesla Passes BMW for US Luxury Sales Lead

another ludicrous headline... teslas are NOT luxury cars. your polestar is more luxurious than a model 3.

and those stats above​​​ are irrelevant.

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Jan 12, 2023 | 01:26 PM
  #302  
Quote: The two best selling vehicles in California, the largest market in the US, are the Model 3 and Y.
not doubting you, but source of this info?
Jan 12, 2023 | 01:37 PM
  #303  
Quote: another ludicrous headline... teslas are NOT luxury cars. your polestar is more luxurious than a model 3.

and those stats above​​​ are irrelevant.

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I wouldn't use the word luxury (which is again, their headline), but I would use Premium. I'm only guessing, but they may be using Luxury because the same Luxury buyers are now flocking to Tesla. Again, just a guess
Jan 12, 2023 | 01:38 PM
  #304  
They have a "luxury" price, which I guess the survey is based on.
Jan 12, 2023 | 01:42 PM
  #305  
Quote: not doubting you, but source of this info?
here you go - take a look at this, final 2022 numbers aren't out as best as I can tell, but this November industry report confirms the lead as of Q3, and it won't have changed in Q4

https://www.cncda.org/wp-content/upl...Q-22_FINAL.pdf


Jan 12, 2023 | 01:45 PM
  #306  
Quote: They have a "luxury" price, which I guess the survey is based on.
Jan 12, 2023 | 02:57 PM
  #307  
Quote: another ludicrous headline... teslas are NOT luxury cars. your polestar is more luxurious than a model 3.

and those stats above​​​ are irrelevant.

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You and I do not define luxury, except for ourselves. The market classifies Tesla as a luxury vehicle. The numbers are what they are.
Jan 12, 2023 | 03:04 PM
  #308  
^^The only comment I can add to the above is that Tesla appears to be at the top, outselling Luxury, Premium and even economy brands/models in many important markets. Model 3 & Y will most likely be the best selling cars if they are not already. The numbers are yes, the numbers ^^
Jan 12, 2023 | 03:28 PM
  #309  
Quote: They have a "luxury" price, which I guess the survey is based on.
those who consider a model 3 as a luxury car must enjoy 'luxury' furniture like this:



Jan 12, 2023 | 03:38 PM
  #310  
Quote: those who consider a model 3 as a luxury car must enjoy 'luxury' furniture like this:


LOL that's awesome! But truth be told, the Model 3 seats are comfortable. That chair above, well not so comfortable looking despite the price
Jan 12, 2023 | 05:18 PM
  #311  
Quote: understand, not saying you wrote the clickbait headline.



the tesla model designs still look great and current overall and they have made refresh changes to lights, front/rear, etc., but obviously not whole new body designs.

and i think tesla can definitely do significant new things without new body designs, in particular lighting and interior. and getting rid of the god awful yoke.



and manufacturers do entirely new models to 'obsolete themselves' to stay ahead of any competition. but so far, tesla doesn't have any significant competition in u.s. at least.

and i think they have a secret weapon they've not unleashed (because they haven't had to) - price. they're making good margins to fund the growth/scaling, but if necessary, i bet they could undercut their competition.

Maybe Tesla can be like iPhone - each gen looks exactly the same with minor tweaks, most of the changes are from feature content.

I’m shocked so many ppl buy these cars due to the goofy styling and very plain bare bones interior.

Not convinced that this will be sustainable for another 5-10yrs.
I do think unit sales will increase overall as Tesla enters new markets worldwide.
Jan 12, 2023 | 05:35 PM
  #312  
Quote: Maybe Tesla can be like iPhone - each gen looks exactly the same with minor tweaks, most of the changes are from feature content.

I’m shocked so many ppl buy these cars due to the goofy styling and very plain bare bones interior.

Not convinced that this will be sustainable for another 5-10yrs.
I do think unit sales will increase overall as Tesla enters new markets worldwide.
People will make money on the brand regardless, I think there is some Prius factor going on. Once the people who want them have them sales will slow.
Jan 12, 2023 | 05:49 PM
  #313  
One of the most common misconceptions people don't buy Tesla's primarily because they are green they buy them for the overall experience. Power, refinement, software, charging network, freedom from the pump, constant updates. Almost no maintenance.

Jan 12, 2023 | 05:58 PM
  #314  
Quote: One of the most common misconceptions people don't buy Tesla's primarily because they are green they buy them for the overall experience. Power, refinement, software, charging network, freedom from the pump, constant updates. Almost no maintenance.
It's just the newest trend, nothing more. It will get old and effect sales like any other car, remember the PT cruiser?
Jan 12, 2023 | 05:59 PM
  #315  
Quote: People will make money on the brand regardless, I think there is some Prius factor going on. Once the people who want them have them sales will slow.
Ya think? Maybe that's true of just about everything?
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