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Old Aug 24, 2025 | 04:02 PM
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So my 2c is that some if not much of it is just because they are better EVs, but some if not much of it is also about the sales approach. Tesla makes it very easy to buy or lease, and everyone who buys a Tesla at the same time pays the same as anyone else buying the same vehicle. Customers like that. The legacy dealership model is often the polar opposite.
People like easy, myself included.
Nobody wants to fight or play games when trying to do business.

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Old Aug 24, 2025 | 04:03 PM
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Did they add ground clearance just to give the Toyota a win on something?
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Old Aug 24, 2025 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames
So my 2c is that some if not much of it is just because they are better EVs, but some if not much of it is also about the sales approach. Tesla makes it very easy to buy or lease, and everyone who buys a Tesla at the same time pays the same as anyone else buying the same vehicle. Customers like that. The legacy dealership model is often the polar opposite.
I personally think they are better especially in the appliance segment, but that's just my opinion. But the last part is definitely true. Teslas buying process is hassle free
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Old Aug 24, 2025 | 04:30 PM
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Did they add ground clearance just to give the Toyota a win on something?
Rivian would win that hands down

Speaking of Rivian, my brother in laws wife who has an RT1 for almost two years was complaining how harsh the ride is, especially when they hit the hilly roads (they live in Los Altos Hills). Turns out, she had the suspension set on sports mode and at its lowest stance since owning the truck 🤣A quick change to comfort mode fixed the issue. It was an "Oh crap moment" for sure
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I get that. I've probably owned the most EV'S out of anyone on this forum (2020 Hyundai Ioniq, 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5, 2023 2022 Polestar 2, 2023 Model Y and 2024 Model 3)
reminder, time to take the ioniq off your sig.

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A quick change to comfort mode fixed the issue. It was an "Oh crap moment" for sure
reminds me of the tech abbreviation: RTFM
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Old Aug 24, 2025 | 07:55 PM
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reminder, time to take the ioniq off your sig.



reminds me of the tech abbreviation: RTFM
I'll remove it one of these days

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Rivian would win that hands down

Speaking of Rivian, my brother in laws wife who has an RT1 for almost two years was complaining how harsh the ride is, especially when they hit the hilly roads (they live in Los Altos Hills). Turns out, she had the suspension set on sports mode and at its lowest stance since owning the truck 🤣A quick change to comfort mode fixed the issue. It was an "Oh crap moment" for sure
Sounds like she was enjoying the truck With all of the suspension tuning they've done, I've found moderate suspension in All Purpose to be a great combo of ride and comfort.
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Old Aug 25, 2025 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
Sounds like she was enjoying the truck With all of the suspension tuning they've done, I've found moderate suspension in All Purpose to be a great combo of ride and comfort.
I believe that's what we set it to. It was absolutely hilarious. Imagine driving a car for almost two years with overdrive off and wondering why it was so loud
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One of my business partners just went through this in this class of vehicle (these are not SUVs IMO), and he also chose the Mach E.
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Old Aug 25, 2025 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
One of my business partners just went through this in this class of vehicle (these are not SUVs IMO), and he also chose the Mach E.
Just like Rav4s or X7s are not SUVS.

All these are Crossover Utility Vehicles or CUVs or if you like marketing speak Sport Activity Vehicle from Bavaria.

IMO hottttt egg shaped market, so everyone sending em out the door hoping someone picks their egg-u-v.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
One of my business partners just went through this in this class of vehicle (these are not SUVs IMO), and he also chose the Mach E.
MotorTrend actually calls the vehicles in this comparison "compact SUVs"...."compact crossovers:" would be a better way to describe them

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cuv, suv, fuv, zuv, whatever...
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Old Aug 25, 2025 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
cuv, suv, fuv, zuv, whatever...
Computer on wheels, battery operated car...etc etc etc 🤣
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Old Aug 25, 2025 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Framestead
Just like Rav4s or X7s are not SUVS.

All these are Crossover Utility Vehicles or CUVs or if you like marketing speak Sport Activity Vehicle from Bavaria.

IMO hottttt egg shaped market, so everyone sending em out the door hoping someone picks their egg-u-v.
I don’t agree about the RAV or the X7. They at least have ground clearance.
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Old Aug 25, 2025 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don’t agree about the RAV or the X7. They at least have ground clearance.
The Toyota BEV suv has 8.3in of ground clearance. RAV4 has 8.6in of ground clearance
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