CNBC: BYD Rising
#16
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not sure the need for this 'clarification' as i did say commercial ev's and thus not at scale either (yet). but it does give byd some experience in u.s. market, contacts, processes, etc., which will be useful should they decide to do passenger car production in the u.s.
it doesn't prove anything because regulations can and do change. the u.s. could decide the benefits of opening the floodgates to chinese ev's is better than slapping big tariffs on them.
But it does prove the point that they will have to build here to sell here (USMCA) and follow sourcing rules on parts etc.
#17
China and BYD are formidable competitors. We have ceded so much business in the name of short term profits and low prices. I am proud Tesla, as an American company, is leading the world in the emerging EV market. Reviving the Fremont plant was a key reason we purchased the Model 3.
Where will it go? Many think America is invincible. Think again. Support American business and labor. I do.
Where will it go? Many think America is invincible. Think again. Support American business and labor. I do.
#18
Lexus Champion
China and BYD are formidable competitors. We have ceded so much business in the name of short term profits and low prices. I am proud Tesla, as an American company, is leading the world in the emerging EV market. Reviving the Fremont plant was a key reason we purchased the Model 3.
Where will it go? Many think America is invincible. Think again. Support American business and labor. I do.
Where will it go? Many think America is invincible. Think again. Support American business and labor. I do.
#19
#20
Lexus Champion
I didn't buy it, my daughter did. I would personally never buy a Bolt for myself, although it's not a bad starter EV. That said, I was more referring to their ICE vehicles, but I would probably not buy an EV from them either
BTW corrected your post
BTW corrected your post
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#21
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#22
Lexus Champion
BTW, if you work for Apple, or Tesla in the US, you are overworked. You may be compensated well, but you are overworked, and if you work for a startup, you are not working 8 hour days....
#23
Lexus Test Driver
I don't know ya'll.
Is it bad for me to say I don't want these cars here?
I mean, come on, the cars we already have spent a long time earning their reputation and brand loyalty.
Wish them success but not here, maybe somewhere else tho. Lol
Is it bad for me to say I don't want these cars here?
I mean, come on, the cars we already have spent a long time earning their reputation and brand loyalty.
Wish them success but not here, maybe somewhere else tho. Lol
#24
I assume you're too young to remember the Japanese brands back in the 70's. Everyone thought they were just cheap and poorly made. History often repeats itself.
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#25
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Haven't had the opportunity to watch this video yet but will soon as it came on my feed awhile back too. Definitely have to take note of how they are progressing, but don't think they are much of a concern YET for the US. Reports of paint that's literally peeling off cars, roofs caving in when weight/roof rack added, new cars being sold with black mold and more. None of that stuff is going to fly here in the states.
Since Tesla is absolutely getting pummeled at the moment, its not surprising to see all these well timed positive news stories about it's competition.
Since Tesla is absolutely getting pummeled at the moment, its not surprising to see all these well timed positive news stories about it's competition.
#26
Lexus Champion
Haven't had the opportunity to watch this video yet but will soon as it came on my feed awhile back too. Definitely have to take note of how they are progressing, but don't think they are much of a concern YET for the US. Reports of paint that's literally peeling off cars, roofs caving in when weight/roof rack added, new cars being sold with black mold and more. None of that stuff is going to fly here in the states.
Since Tesla is absolutely getting pummeled at the moment, its not surprising to see all these well timed positive news stories about it's competition.
Since Tesla is absolutely getting pummeled at the moment, its not surprising to see all these well timed positive news stories about it's competition.
#27
I don't buy that. I support whoever gives me the best product at the best prices. Would you buy a GM product over a Toyota or Lexus? I've owned one GM product, and it was pretty terrible. I traded it in for a Toyota, and that Toyota stayed in the family for almost 15 years. If BYD offers something better than Tesla at a good value (includes service, charging etc), they have a customer
#28
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The consumer will almost always go for the best and least expensive car. If a Chinese company can produce a very good car that helps people, why not. I can't imagine how the US government is going to spin this into a national security threat. Oh, maybe the cars will spy on the drivers (as if they didn't already).
ps. BYD is already bigger than Tesla in terms of sales in EVs (BEV+PHEV) I think.
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#29
LOL....how times have changed. Go back to the 1980s and everyone was up in arms about Japanese cars. Guess now they're all ok
The consumer will almost always go for the best and least expensive car. If a Chinese company can produce a very good car that helps people, why not. I can't imagine how the US government is going to spin this into a national security threat. Oh, maybe the cars will spy on the drivers (as if they didn't already).
ps. BYD is already bigger than Tesla in terms of sales in EVs (BEV+PHEV) I think.
The consumer will almost always go for the best and least expensive car. If a Chinese company can produce a very good car that helps people, why not. I can't imagine how the US government is going to spin this into a national security threat. Oh, maybe the cars will spy on the drivers (as if they didn't already).
ps. BYD is already bigger than Tesla in terms of sales in EVs (BEV+PHEV) I think.
I was an early Model 3 adopter; we bought the car in Dec 2018. I did not need another car. GM failed the Fremont plant, NUMMI (GM + Toyota) failed the Fremont plant. At their peak NUMMI employed over 6000 employees. When the shuttered, homes were lost, the local tax base suffered, restaurants and all sorts of local businesses. NUMMI was the biggest employer in Fremont.
Today Tesla employs over 20,000 workers and is always hiring. I choose to support that.
#30
Lexus Champion
Right now I'm a loyal Tesla buyer, but if BYD comes to NA with a better value proposition, I have no issues switching