Tesla Cybertruck Sales Delay?
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#17
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Cybertruck is North America only for now. So I looked up F series sales they are not what I thought which was 900K+/year. This year will be ~720,000.
https://fordauthority.com/fmc/ford-m...sales-numbers/
https://fordauthority.com/fmc/ford-m...sales-numbers/
#18
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Without trying to be rude, my point was that I simply am not going to debate it with you. I know what I said, meant.....and I am moving on.
Well, there are indeed a lot of crazy people on the Internet. I agree with you that the F-150 has long had a cult following....but in this new age of electric vehicles,, anything can happen.
I follow a bunch of Tesla nuts on X as well as Tesla haters I've never seen anyone say Cybertruck will sell 1 million units/year. If anyone says that I think they are crazy I don't see that happening. Ford has 60 years of loyalty built in.
Last edited by mmarshall; 12-30-23 at 03:53 PM.
#19
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I think the only reasonable conclusion is that we are seeing a slow launch, not a sales delay. Tesla is going to sell as many as they can make regardless. Slow roll-out probably helps rather than hinders, keeps the launch hype going for longer.
#21
Has anyone actually seen a Tesla Cybertruck on the road? ......I know I haven't. All we heard, for months, was what a sales-success this vehicle was going to be, and how it was going to push the F-150 (and the electric F-150 Lightning) out of first place. Apparently there must be either a lack of orders, delays in production/deliveries, quality-issues in some of them preventing delivery, or maybe some people just having second thoughts and cancelling their orders. Of course, things could change, and it could end up being a success. We saw, for example, long delays in getting the Ford Bronco and Bronco Sport into production...but, once deliveries began, they have both been explosive successes.
Tesla sets these hurdles for themselves to make it harder.
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#22
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#23
As to not being the reason, try to tell me you wouldn't have liked them to produce 300k this year and 500k next year, as a shareholder? Easily possible without trying to figure out mass production of stainless steel as well as new 4680 battery process.
Comment simply mirrors what Munro mentioned when he talked to tesla engineers.
#24
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Easily possible without trying to figure out mass production of stainless steel as well as new 4680 battery process.
Comment simply mirrors what Munro mentioned when he talked to tesla engineers.
#25
I don't look it at that way. Cybertruck is a proving ground for new tech that will propagate across all models that is far more valuable. Also, given how Tesla stock has performed since the IPO I 100% trust the direction the company continues to take.
4680 is very important to Tesla, it allows them to make cells via dry process this requires far less factory space, far less water and in general way cheaper to produce. 2nd generation 4680 already has about the same energy density as 2170's.
Tesla engineers have said what they are doing is very difficult not that they shouldn't be doing it.
4680 is very important to Tesla, it allows them to make cells via dry process this requires far less factory space, far less water and in general way cheaper to produce. 2nd generation 4680 already has about the same energy density as 2170's.
Tesla engineers have said what they are doing is very difficult not that they shouldn't be doing it.
Cyber Truck has many innovations for Tesla, so having 2 less would be great for their production ramp up. Stainless steel is like wing doors in Model X - it will not be added to any other car, and you will see Elon mention it was their mistake, 5 years from now.
Now, as a non shareholder and someone who would never buy a truck of any kind as I live in Europe, I like it. Try out all these technologies and trickle them down by 2025 for my next Model S.
#26
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Stainless steel is like wing doors in Model X - it will not be added to any other car, and you will see Elon mention it was their mistake, 5 years from now.
Either way, my bet is Cybertruck is going to sell in far higher numbers than most expect.
#27
Lexus Champion
4680 is not model specific in any way putting them in Cybertruck or Semi or Y etc. doesn't fundamentally change cell development. Since 4680 in a relative sense is produced in low numbers it makes sense to put them in low volume models.
Don't be so sure.
Either way, my bet is Cybertruck is going to sell in far higher numbers than most expect.
Don't be so sure.
Either way, my bet is Cybertruck is going to sell in far higher numbers than most expect.
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