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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 12:41 PM
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Default Tesla drivers found to have the highest accident rate

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/stud...-accidents/amp

A bit surprising. If I had to guess I would have bet it would be Nissan.

I wonder why, likely due to a few factors. My guesses are because California is one of the highest states for incidents on the road where most Teslas are, owners being too reliant on auto pilot? More Tesla owners viewing driving as a chore?

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Tesla's are not even in the top 10:



https://insurify.com/car-insurance/i...ccidents-2023/

You have to be a total idiot to crash a Tesla. The car screams at you if someone brakes in front of you and you still have your foot on the accelerator
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Cars involved in fatal accidents:

#1 – Ford

Ford and Chevrolet almost tie for having the most fatal crashes per model. Unfortunately, Fords are more often involved in more fatal crashes, despite the Chevrolet Silverado having the most fatal crashes overall.
  • Ford F-150: 7,502 accidents
  • Ford Explorer: 3,139 accidents
  • Ford F-250: 2,859 accidents
Ford F-150 insurance rates are higher than average at $177 per month to compensate for its risk on the road, but drivers can get cheaper auto insurance quotes for a Ford F-250 depending on their driving records.

#2 – Chevrolet

Chevrolet has the second-most fatal accidents, with the Silverado, Impala, and Malibu models all in the top 20 for most fatal auto accidents over three years:
  • Chevrolet Silverado: 8,777 accidents
  • Chevrolet Impala: 2,765 accidents
  • Chevrolet Malibu: 2,548 accidents
However, Chevrolet Silverado auto insurance rates and Impala auto insurance rates remain well below the national average, at $149 and $112 per month, respectively. Despite their high fatality rates on the road, Chevrolets are generally easy to repair, which keeps auto rates low.

#3 – Honda

Honda is known for its reliable vehicles, and the Honda Civic is the IIHS top safety pick for 2022. However, over 4,000 Civics were involved in fatal accidents between 2017 and 2019:
  • Honda Accord: 5,368 accidents
  • Honda Civic: 4,648 accidents
  • Honda CR-V: 1,867 accidents
Although it’s in the top three for most fatal car accidents, Honda auto insurance rates are among the most affordable. For example, drivers pay between $100 and $130 monthly to insure the three models listed above.

Honorable Mention – Toyota

We included Toyota on our list of auto makes that get into the most fatal crashes because the Camry was involved in over 5,000 fatal accidents:
  • Toyota Camry: 5,023 accidents
  • Toyota Corolla: 3,641 accidents
  • Toyota Tacoma: 1,984 accidents
The Toyota Tacoma has lower fatality rates than any other light pick-up on this list, partly because Tacoma auto insurance rates are well below the national average at around $112 a month.

However, only the top four deadliest cars were involved in over 5,000 fatal accidents, earning Toyota an honorable mention on our list

https://www.autoinsurance.org/which-...tal-accidents/
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The devil as always is going to be in the detail and in this case it may very well be that it's an analysis of one data source (customers requesting quotes via lending tree) rather than a broader analysis where the data set includes more owners and multiple insurers. A lot of Tesla owners get their insurance directly from Tesla, others direct from the insurance company without going through a consolidator. It may well be that a smaller segment without a premium driving record gets Lending Tree quotes. We don't know for sure either way, but I'd suspect it factors in.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Tesla's are not even in the top 10:



https://insurify.com/car-insurance/i...ccidents-2023/

You have to be a total idiot to crash a Tesla. The car screams at you if someone brakes in front of you and you still have your foot on the accelerator
Your source is on a per model basis and also a percentage of that model. The Audi s4 is 11%. If Audi sold 10k s4 then it will be a total of 1,100 which would not have a major effect on Audi overall.

The source I posted is on a per 1,000 basis for a brand not per model. So Audi may have the #1 model in accidents, that doesn't mean Audi will be #1 brand in accidents.
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The devil as always is going to be in the detail and in this case it may very well be that it's an analysis of one data source (customers requesting quotes via lending tree) rather than a broader analysis where the data set includes more owners and multiple insurers. A lot of Tesla owners get their insurance directly from Tesla, others direct from the insurance company without going through a consolidator. It may well be that a smaller segment without a premium driving record gets Lending Tree quotes. We don't know for sure either way, but I'd suspect it factors in.
Makes sense and I agree. Although this factor I would assume to have a similar effect across all brands. Tesla being the only brand with their own insurance may skew it as you highlighted though.
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
Your source is on a per model basis and also a percentage of that model. The Audi s4 is 11%. If Audi sold 10k s4 then it will be a total of 1,100 which would not have a major effect on Audi overall.

The source I posted is on a per 1,000 basis for a brand not per model. So Audi may have the #1 model in accidents, that doesn't mean Audi will be #1 brand in accidents.
I looked at the data compiled by several other insurance companies, and it's the same thing, Tesla is not even in the top 10. I also looked at data compiled by several law firms in California, and again the same thing, Tesla is not even on their lists

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When you do a Google search, this is what you get:


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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I looked at the data compiled by several other insurance companies, and it's the same thing, Tesla is not even in the top 10. I also looked at data compiled by several law firms in California, and again the same thing, Tesla is not even on their lists
Can you share this data?
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
When you do a Google search, this is what you get:

That's for the year 2022. What I posted was from November 2022 to November 2023.


Edit: you're also using sources for total number of accidents per model / brand. The data I posted is using total accidents per 1,000. If there are more Honda's on the road than all Teslas then its likely Honda will have more total accidents than Teslas. When it's on a per 1,000 basis it eliminates that variable.

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I never see Teslas driving recklessly, like at all. I've never had a problem with a Tesla driver, and/or they've never had a problem with me.

I never even see them zoom off crazily fast ever either. I thought that was the best part, lol.
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Originally Posted by Blaze876
Can you share this data?
This is from the Barnes Firm in California:

https://www.thebarnesfirm.com/20-mos...-cars-in-2023/

From Autoblog

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/06/25/...ts-10-highest/

The Hill

https://thehill.com/changing-america...t-death-rates/

Wells Call Injury Lawyers

https://www.wccbc.com/most-dangerous-vehicles/
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I never see Teslas driving recklessly, like at all. I've never had a problem with a Tesla driver, and/or they've never had a problem with me.

I never even see them zoom off crazily fast ever either. I thought that was the best part, lol.
I have had only 1 incident with a Tesla driver but for most part they are usually in the right slow doing the speed limit on the highway....I am assuming to preserve range lol. Of lately I have seen more "speeding" not recklessly but actually accelerating fast. They seem like some of the better drivers to be honest.
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None of these discredits the source I used though. All the ones you posted is either total accidents or a percentage of a model or is only accounting for accidents with fatalities.

Again, the source I used have Tesla the brand as the highest for accidents per 1,000. It can be a minor fender bender or a fatality.

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You absolutely have to look at incidence rates. You are always going to see higher raw numbers with better-selling vehicles. You can't make any comparison until you are confident you are dealing with normalized numbers (accidents per 1,000 vehicles etc).
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