If you had to go back, what ICE would you buy?
#1
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If you had to go back, what ICE would you buy?
You've grown tired of smooth, instant on demand torque. EV sales begin to collapse, companies like Tesla, Polestar and Rivian fold. The price of electricity becomes unsustainable. Whatever the reason, you decide to go back to ICE vehicles. What would you go back to? The following is my list
Personal daily driver:
BMW M3 Comp xDrive
Why the M3 Comp and not the base M3? The base only comes with a 6 speed manual, and I just can't go back to a manual for a daily driver. After driving cars like the Polestar, Model Y and occasionally the Ioniq 5 for the last three years, the 3.0L TT inline 6 is the perfect compromise. I would probably stick with the RWD and this would be a car I would only lease
For the wife/family vehicle:
2023 Toyota Sienna Hybrid
The Sienna Hybrid is extremely efficient, roomy and comfortable, and seats 8. Yes it lacks power, sounds and feels horrible when you put your foot to the floor, but again, it's efficient...and my wife doesn't really care. She loves minivans, and this would be no exception. People don't realize the utility of a minivan until they have owned one
Beater/kids car
Toyota Camry Hybrid
What can I say about the Camry? It's inexpensive. They last forever, are efficient, and they last forever. Oh, I said that
What ICE would go back to? I would love to know!
Personal daily driver:
BMW M3 Comp xDrive
Why the M3 Comp and not the base M3? The base only comes with a 6 speed manual, and I just can't go back to a manual for a daily driver. After driving cars like the Polestar, Model Y and occasionally the Ioniq 5 for the last three years, the 3.0L TT inline 6 is the perfect compromise. I would probably stick with the RWD and this would be a car I would only lease
For the wife/family vehicle:
2023 Toyota Sienna Hybrid
The Sienna Hybrid is extremely efficient, roomy and comfortable, and seats 8. Yes it lacks power, sounds and feels horrible when you put your foot to the floor, but again, it's efficient...and my wife doesn't really care. She loves minivans, and this would be no exception. People don't realize the utility of a minivan until they have owned one
Beater/kids car
Toyota Camry Hybrid
What can I say about the Camry? It's inexpensive. They last forever, are efficient, and they last forever. Oh, I said that
What ICE would go back to? I would love to know!
#2
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Hahaha, this is a fun idea. Instead of the EQS SUV, I’d look at an S-Class, G-Wagon, or 7-Series
Instead of the Model Y, probably a GLC Coupe, GLE Coupe, or BMW X4, X6.
Instead of the Tesla Cybertruck, most likely an F150, preferably Raptor 😁
Instead of the Model Y, probably a GLC Coupe, GLE Coupe, or BMW X4, X6.
Instead of the Tesla Cybertruck, most likely an F150, preferably Raptor 😁
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AMIRZA786 (12-03-23)
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AMIRZA786 (12-03-23)
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I should probably mention that you should list cars that you would actually buy, and not the cars you fanaticized about as a drooling 14 year old as you looked at the poster hanging on your bedroom wall
#6
Not sure there is another car I'd buy today... A CR-V or RAV4 hybrid probably makes sense, but why would anyone buy a sensible car? Makes no sense...
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AMIRZA786 (12-03-23)
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i already have the ice fun car (lc500) but for an ice work car i'd probably get something like the new tucson or for more dough, mercedes glc or gle.
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AMIRZA786 (12-04-23)
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I don't consider it "going back" but I did add a car to the family stable recently - a 2024 Hyundai Tucson SEL, for my son who is starting to drive. The Polestar2 will be replaced by another EV when the lease is up (1 year to go).
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AMIRZA786 (12-04-23)
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January 2025 for me. Not sure what I'm going to replace it with (I may just buyout the lease)
#10
I’m not qualified () to answer this question but IMO the ICE selection is not much interesting as of right now in my price range. Most likely my next one will be EV. New GX seems like a good choice but will see how it drives.
This guy seems to know what he would want 😂
This guy seems to know what he would want 😂
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LoL that took me a moment to unscramble my brain! I knew something was off, but couldn't figure what...🤣
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That fits it pretty well with the Audi look.
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signdetres (12-07-23)
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After my EQS's steering column malfunctioned, I had to secure a loaner, which turned out to be a 2023 S-Class 500 with 437 miles on the odometer. Despite being priced between $130-143k, it failed to meet my expectations. Although the S-Class had more features than my EQS, its acceleration felt sluggish, and the drive sometimes felt cumbersome. It seems to drive much larger than it is and it is a big car. On the other hand, the EQS, despite weighing about 1000 lbs more, had a smoother driving experience with instantaneous acceleration and felt quicker and more agile. The S-Class tends to lurch from a stop if not handled carefully and feels like driving a barge. However, the S-Class excelled in some areas, such as quick and responsive braking, elevated Multi-contour seats, and better headroom. The massaging features were also more robust in the S-Class.
The lack of engine noise and transmission in the electric vehicle and the option to pre-climatize the car in a garage made me realize that I did not miss having an internal combustion engine vehicle. While the doors on the S-Class seemed more sturdy due to their full frame, the EQS's short drop function helped to minimize door vibration. I speculate that having frameless doors may increase noise from the road and wind. Overall, I found the experience of driving an electric vehicle to be much more satisfying.
You know, there are a ton of other comparisons and contrasts I could say about this, but I promised to keep it short and sweet. So, bottom line, I'd take my EQ over that higher-priced S-Class 500 any day of the week.
Last edited by UltraLux22; 12-08-23 at 12:08 AM.
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signdetres (12-08-23)
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Although it deviates from the primary purpose of this post, I would like to share my brief insight regarding my recent encounter with an S-Class. In short, I'd venture to say the likelihood of reverting to an ICE is highly unlikely. However, if I had to switch back, I would definitely go back to the ES 350 Ultra Luxury. But I have always wanted to try living with an A6 for a while.
After my EQS's steering column malfunctioned, I had to secure a loaner, which turned out to be a 2023 S-Class 500 with 437 miles on the odometer. Despite being priced between $130-143k, it failed to meet my expectations. Although the S-Class had more features than my EQS, its acceleration felt sluggish, and the drive sometimes felt cumbersome. It seems to drive much larger than it is and it is a big car. On the other hand, the EQS, despite weighing about 1000 lbs more, had a smoother driving experience with instantaneous acceleration and felt quicker and more agile. The S-Class tends to lurch from a stop if not handled carefully and feels like driving a barge. However, the S-Class excelled in some areas, such as quick and responsive braking, elevated Multi-contour seats, and better headroom. The massaging features were also more robust in the S-Class.
The lack of engine noise and transmission in the electric vehicle and the option to pre-climatize the car in a garage made me realize that I did not miss having an internal combustion engine vehicle. While the doors on the S-Class seemed more sturdy due to their full frame, the EQS's short drop function helped to minimize door vibration. I speculate that having frameless doors may increase noise from the road and wind. Overall, I found the experience of driving an electric vehicle to be much more satisfying.
You know, there are a ton of other comparisons and contrasts I could say about this, but I promised to keep it short and sweet. So, bottom line, I'd take my EQ over that higher-priced S-Class 500 any day of the week.
After my EQS's steering column malfunctioned, I had to secure a loaner, which turned out to be a 2023 S-Class 500 with 437 miles on the odometer. Despite being priced between $130-143k, it failed to meet my expectations. Although the S-Class had more features than my EQS, its acceleration felt sluggish, and the drive sometimes felt cumbersome. It seems to drive much larger than it is and it is a big car. On the other hand, the EQS, despite weighing about 1000 lbs more, had a smoother driving experience with instantaneous acceleration and felt quicker and more agile. The S-Class tends to lurch from a stop if not handled carefully and feels like driving a barge. However, the S-Class excelled in some areas, such as quick and responsive braking, elevated Multi-contour seats, and better headroom. The massaging features were also more robust in the S-Class.
The lack of engine noise and transmission in the electric vehicle and the option to pre-climatize the car in a garage made me realize that I did not miss having an internal combustion engine vehicle. While the doors on the S-Class seemed more sturdy due to their full frame, the EQS's short drop function helped to minimize door vibration. I speculate that having frameless doors may increase noise from the road and wind. Overall, I found the experience of driving an electric vehicle to be much more satisfying.
You know, there are a ton of other comparisons and contrasts I could say about this, but I promised to keep it short and sweet. So, bottom line, I'd take my EQ over that higher-priced S-Class 500 any day of the week.
#15
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Although it deviates from the primary purpose of this post, I would like to share my brief insight regarding my recent encounter with an S-Class. In short, I'd venture to say the likelihood of reverting to an ICE is highly unlikely. However, if I had to switch back, I would definitely go back to the ES 350 Ultra Luxury. But I have always wanted to try living with an A6 for a while.
After my EQS's steering column malfunctioned, I had to secure a loaner, which turned out to be a 2023 S-Class 500 with 437 miles on the odometer. Despite being priced between $130-143k, it failed to meet my expectations. Although the S-Class had more features than my EQS, its acceleration felt sluggish, and the drive sometimes felt cumbersome. It seems to drive much larger than it is and it is a big car. On the other hand, the EQS, despite weighing about 1000 lbs more, had a smoother driving experience with instantaneous acceleration and felt quicker and more agile. The S-Class tends to lurch from a stop if not handled carefully and feels like driving a barge. However, the S-Class excelled in some areas, such as quick and responsive braking, elevated Multi-contour seats, and better headroom. The massaging features were also more robust in the S-Class.
The lack of engine noise and transmission in the electric vehicle and the option to pre-climatize the car in a garage made me realize that I did not miss having an internal combustion engine vehicle. While the doors on the S-Class seemed more sturdy due to their full frame, the EQS's short drop function helped to minimize door vibration. I speculate that having frameless doors may increase noise from the road and wind. Overall, I found the experience of driving an electric vehicle to be much more satisfying.
You know, there are a ton of other comparisons and contrasts I could say about this, but I promised to keep it short and sweet. So, bottom line, I'd take my EQ over that higher-priced S-Class 500 any day of the week.
After my EQS's steering column malfunctioned, I had to secure a loaner, which turned out to be a 2023 S-Class 500 with 437 miles on the odometer. Despite being priced between $130-143k, it failed to meet my expectations. Although the S-Class had more features than my EQS, its acceleration felt sluggish, and the drive sometimes felt cumbersome. It seems to drive much larger than it is and it is a big car. On the other hand, the EQS, despite weighing about 1000 lbs more, had a smoother driving experience with instantaneous acceleration and felt quicker and more agile. The S-Class tends to lurch from a stop if not handled carefully and feels like driving a barge. However, the S-Class excelled in some areas, such as quick and responsive braking, elevated Multi-contour seats, and better headroom. The massaging features were also more robust in the S-Class.
The lack of engine noise and transmission in the electric vehicle and the option to pre-climatize the car in a garage made me realize that I did not miss having an internal combustion engine vehicle. While the doors on the S-Class seemed more sturdy due to their full frame, the EQS's short drop function helped to minimize door vibration. I speculate that having frameless doors may increase noise from the road and wind. Overall, I found the experience of driving an electric vehicle to be much more satisfying.
You know, there are a ton of other comparisons and contrasts I could say about this, but I promised to keep it short and sweet. So, bottom line, I'd take my EQ over that higher-priced S-Class 500 any day of the week.