SW17LS

Its working, maybe the situation is that what you like and want out of a car is just not what many, many, many people want.

AMIRZA786

So I was passenger in my coworkers X3 last month (the model with the 3.0L TT V6), and it's really nice. Very comfortable seats, good suspension, road isolation, nice controls and instrument layout etc. Power is also really good (I think it had hybrid assist)... but, just my opinion, it now feels primitive to me. Even my Polestar which is a simple sedan with almost no bells and whistles feels more advanced. Do I think it's a really good SUV? Yes I do, and I would even consider one....if the Model Y didn't exist 😔

Tdes395

[QUOTE=LeX2K;11548082When I first saw the Model 3 interior I thought Tesla had lost their damn minds. I was very wrong.

I love the unobstructed view it's awesome.[/QUOTE]


🤣🤣🤣I felt the same was way at first. But it has really grown on me too. And I especially love the screen and the software and all the fun you can have with it.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

are you referring to the 'german' audis with engines made in hungary, or the 'german' bmws and mercedes, the majority of which are made in south carolina and alabama respectively?

patgilm

BMW SUVs are made in South Carolina, M cars are still made in Germany but I’ve heard some M-lite cars are now made in Mexico. My M340 was made in Germany.

LeX2K

Too much BMW talk.

So why would Highland come out much sooner than a Model Y refresh? They are almost the same car.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

let the 3 highland buyers work out the kinks because they're 'enthusiasts'

AMIRZA786

Lol that's how it's done

Lwerewolf

Interior is trash. Let's see if they've done something about it but given Musk's recent fall from grace, kinda doubt it.

Front looks absolutely fine.

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

3 came out 2 years before the Y.

AMIRZA786

I disagree with that. The interior is as good and comfortable as my 2nd Gen IS350...except it's not leather. If in two years the faux leather goes bad, tears or fades, or the cushion starts to tear or go bad, I'll be in agreement with you. If you are talking about lack of buttons and the plain vanilla look of the cabin, than that's just a matter of taste. Is it Lexus build quality? No for sure not

Lwerewolf

I'm talking about usability. I don't care if it's made out of indestructible materials that are just the perfect thing for the case.

As for "a matter of taste" - having to take your eyes off the road to control basic things that everybody does is beyond ridiculous. Wipers, AC (including defrost), steering wheel position, mirrors (there are buttons for the seats but the steering column and mirrors were... what?), lights. For some reason, the hazards button is in a ridiculous spot as well, and they did manage to "integrate" it in a sane spot (you know, right below the center touchscreen) with their "design" in the Model S.

Anyways, plenty of non Tesla EVs around here so I'm not too worried. The fact that a lot of other manufacturers are jumping on the touch screen-only glare wagon does have me worried. Honorable mention to the prius 5 for having a notably worse gauge cluster than the slap-on big ultrawide touchscreen style ones, of course.

Pretty much the only things that I really like about the model 3 are the price and the use of LFP batteries. Then again, Tesla's always done the batteries right.

AMIRZA786

I've driven my Model Y over 3000 miles since May, and I've never once had to take my eyes of the road for anything, including windshield wipers, defrosters, HVAC etc. But I understand what you are saying, not everyone likes everything integrated into the screens, which is why one of my friends opted for the i4, and another the E-Tron. It's good there is choice and there are other EV's on the market

RNM GS3

Many ppl don’t care except for badge and brand name.
99% of Teslas are white or black with base wheels. People just get the cheapest and most vanilla trim.

The genius of Tesla is its specifically setup production for almost no customization. This is more of a Toyota playbook than MB/BMW.

RNM GS3

Tesla has no gauges in front of you, no heads up display, cheap seats with almost no customization, no interior trim/colors, it doesn’t even have a sunroof shade! The materials are awful.

While the Model Y has decent inputs, dynamically it can’t compete with X3 in terms of suspension setup, brakes, steering, high speed stability. I drove both back to back on backroads as I took the MYP on around 45min drive. It really doesn’t offer anything better than X3.