Model 3 Highland Revealed
07-25-23, 09:20 PM
#31
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Me either but I'm not going to dismiss it without first trying. When I first saw the Model 3 interior I thought Tesla had lost their damn minds. I was very wrong.
I love the unobstructed view it's awesome.
But I also thought I would never get used to everything being in the screen, but here we are
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07-25-23, 09:23 PM
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07-25-23, 10:11 PM
#33
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Um it's much more than a tune...plaids run 9.4s stock and 8.8s gutted....g82s tuned runs high 9s, quite a testament to their tuning capability no doubt. But require new turbos, upgraded tranny etc to run faster, and which will easily make it cost more than a base plaid. And that's on full e85, drag radials, etc and even then good luck with reliability and no warranty.
But can we keep this on point to highland and not make it an ice vs EV debate (again)?
But can we keep this on point to highland and not make it an ice vs EV debate (again)?
07-25-23, 10:13 PM
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Back on topic...as noted Fremont is stopping production for first time to upgrade lines for what....?
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-s-fi...t-factory/amp/
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-s-fi...t-factory/amp/
07-25-23, 10:30 PM
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Just to reiterate one of the rumors with highland refresh, it is supposed to get a new 66kW CATL LFP battery pack that will enable it to go near 300miles for the base model! That would move the bar for mileage efficiency that much higher as other ones struggle to barely get to mid 250range now.
What I would really like to see is the performance model be upgraded with the motors from base model s long range to get 660+ hp rating to fend off the new m50s and huyndai n lines of the world. That should make it an easy stock 10sec quarter mile car and better yet be able to do maintain its quickness ok highway rolls, which it sucks at now.
What I would really like to see is the performance model be upgraded with the motors from base model s long range to get 660+ hp rating to fend off the new m50s and huyndai n lines of the world. That should make it an easy stock 10sec quarter mile car and better yet be able to do maintain its quickness ok highway rolls, which it sucks at now.
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AMIRZA786 (07-25-23)
07-25-23, 10:41 PM
#36
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Why not do a Plaid version of every model? Too much?
07-26-23, 04:21 AM
#37
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If @patgilm is fine without stalks, I guess I am as well 
Just like the yoke, don’t knock it until you try it.
07-26-23, 07:39 AM
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07-26-23, 07:44 AM
#39
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LOL I’m fine without stalks but I like the stalks in my rental much better. The stalks in Teslas are really nice though, very good quality and feel like any of the luxury automakers. My wife actually likes the buttons on the wheel though.
Just like the yoke, don’t knock it until you try it.
Just like the yoke, don’t knock it until you try it.
07-26-23, 10:41 AM
#40
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07-26-23, 01:30 PM
#41
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Tesla's appeal to a mass audience because they are actually interesting. Extremely interesting where long time BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc drivers are jumping ship and buying Tesla. Imagine driving a car that is around $50K that can compete with high end cars and beat many of them, yet are about as efficient as a Prius. And then instantly revert back to a family hauler. Speaking strictly about myself, although I don't track, I am somewhat of an enthusiast, and Tesla's meet one hundred percent of my needs....they are powerful and fast when I need it to be, and have dual use as efficient family haulers at the same time.
No one is asking you like or buy a Tesla, just to think about what you are saying when comparing them to a Camry, as I know several BMW owners (3 series, 5 series and X owners) who jumped ship and bought a Model Y or X and never looked back (I'm not saying one is better than the other as I've never owned a bmw)
No one is asking you like or buy a Tesla, just to think about what you are saying when comparing them to a Camry, as I know several BMW owners (3 series, 5 series and X owners) who jumped ship and bought a Model Y or X and never looked back (I'm not saying one is better than the other as I've never owned a bmw)
I personally can’t understand how ppl can buy these cars if you previously owned a luxury brand. The downgrade is really significant.
Now if the goal is to save $$$ or make a statement to help environment then yes, I can see how Tesla can win out.
Tesla is using Toyota template - limited options, inoffensive styling, appeal to masses, streamlined production etc.
End product is just vanilla, nothing wrong with that but it’s not how most luxury automakers appeal to their customer base.
Nobody will confuse Taycan with Model S. One is a beautiful design, the other is generic car that looks like all the other Teslas. The interiors are even more different.
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07-26-23, 01:38 PM
#42
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I have driven BMWs for years and tested out several Teslas, most recently Model Y Performance as possible replacement for X3 M40i. There is not one area in which i felt the Tesla was superior. Not in performance, luxury, tech, fit/finish etc.
I personally can’t understand how ppl can buy these cars if you previously owned a luxury brand. The downgrade is really significant.
Now if the goal is to save $$$ or make a statement to help environment then yes, I can see how Tesla can win out.
I personally can’t understand how ppl can buy these cars if you previously owned a luxury brand. The downgrade is really significant.
Now if the goal is to save $$$ or make a statement to help environment then yes, I can see how Tesla can win out.
I can only tell you from my perspective, it has very little to do with saving money and nothing to with saving the environment or making a statement. And I don't see it as a downgrade, but an upgrade. After going EV, gasoline cars feel primitive (no offence intended), I can never go back. I guess different strokes for different folks
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07-26-23, 03:40 PM
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Lol...I owned a (tuned) X3M, prefer my MYP for speed, tech, ride, simplicity, reliability, maintenance, etc. I guess I'm not an enthusiast....🙃🙃
07-26-23, 03:55 PM
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