Breaking this out as I think it warrants its own thread.

With now Ford, GM, and Rivian signing on and Huyndai and MB possibly going on board soon, it's going to help EV adoption immensely.

Even though Tesla will benefit greatly from this monetarily, some are wondering if this is actually bad business for them, as one of the primary reasons to choose Tesla was their SC network. I'm starting to hear folks would rather now wait for their favorite carmaker instead of getting a Tesla.

Bigger question is whether the rest of the globe will jump on or continue with CCS...

 

I think its awesome and very happy to see it.

This is a HUGE issue in my opinion.

Coming from the world of "open protocols" while fiercely limiting who can license and use it is what I see everyday.

It exudes monumental confidence that Tesla believes in their product and where someone gets their JUICE should not be a concern to a car buyer.

Imagine if I had to make a decision on an ICE purchase and chose one brand over another due to the availability and preference where I had to get my gas!

Just ideas, plz don't laugh, not an expert in EVs. Lol

 

Relying on a charging network to be a competitive advantage is a losing strategy long term IMO. Cars need to stand on their own merits something I believe Tesla is more than confident in.

 

Don't know who made this image but it's gold.

 

Everything you need to know about the North American Charging Standard (NACS)

There’s been a lot of chatter amongst the EV industry lately about the North American Charging Standard, better known by the initialism “NACS.” The charging standard originally introduced by Tesla is quickly becoming the preferred charging plug and doesn’t seem to be going anywhere anytime soon. All the more reason to stay in the know since your next EV could very well use NACS to charge.



https://electrek.co/2023/06/19/every...standard-nacs/

 

any chance NACS becomes a thing outside north america?

 

The answer is probably a hard NO. A few reasons for that. Tesla's actually have CCS2 (CCS1 is used in North America) ports on all their Tesla's in Europe, Australia and other countries outside of the US. Secondly, pulling your own teeth out is easier than getting the European standards body to change to NACS

 

Best change from CCS1 -> CCS2 seem to be with the locking mechanism being on the vehicle side instead of the plug side. NACS is also on the vehicle side so there’s no risk of being locked into the station if it spazzes out during the charge which seems to someone common problem on CCS1 and EA stations.

At home I am enjoying the the J1772 though. I don’t have to wait for my R1S to wake up before unplugging them in the morning. My 3P was pretty quick to let go, but sometimes took a few seconds

 

We have an EA Home Level 2 J1772, and I use the provided adapter that came with the Tesla. I had to show my family how to unplug the Y properly because they would use the unlocking mechanism on the charger itself which leaves the adapter in the NACS port. The Y would than think the charging session is over and close the port lid on the adapter. You than have to force the charger door open, which thankfully Tesla thought of this, as I was afraid the port door would break!

 

haha I’ve done the same when using public L2 chargers in parking lots

 

Now this one kind of stuns me

Texas to require Tesla’s NACS connector on charging stations in the state

Texas announced that it is going to require Tesla’s NACS connector on charging stations in the state – giving the connector another boost in becoming the standard for charging in North America.

The Texas Department of Transportation confirmed the news today. The state government agency said that it would require both NACS and CCS connectors at charging stations in the state (via Reuters):

“The decision by Ford, GM, and now Rivian to adopt NACS changed requirements for Phase 1” of the rollout, the Texas Department of Transportation said in an email to Reuters on Tuesday, adding that it would require direct current fast chargers to have one CCS and one North American Charging Standard (NACS) connector"


https://electrek.co/2023/06/21/texas...ging-stations/

 

"Rivian recently announced that it would be adopting the Tesla North American Charging Standard (NACS) for its electric vehicles. This means that R1 vehicles starting next year would ship with an NACS adapter, and future vehicles, including the R2 line, would ship with the Tesla standard by default"

"A look at Rivian forums shows that owners and enthusiasts of the EV maker’s all-electric trucks overwhelmingly support the idea of the company’s vehicles adopting the NACS. A poll that was held at the Rivian Owners Forum, for example, ended with 78.7% of respondents responding positively to the idea of the R1T and R1S, as well as succeeding Rivian vehicles, being compatible with Tesla Superchargers"

https://www.teslarati.com/rivian-own...nacs-adoption/

 

That leaves 22% not wanting a NACS enabled vehicle. Why would you not want it?

 

I've never been to an EV forum except here.

But, from what Amirza says, brand loyalty can be fierce.

Hopefully I didn't make wrong assumption but that's what I got.

They may think NACS will help Tesla, the sworn mortal enemy. Lol

 

Brand loyalty can be "blindingly" fierce. As you can see, I buy products based on need, not brand by looking at my current line up:

2013 Toyota Sienna
2020 Hyundai Ioniq EV
2022 Polestar 2
2023 Chevy Bolt EUV
2023 Tesla Model Y

Well, mostly need