Moving from GS to ES
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SW17LS, I think you are participating in the wrong forums! Can I suggest this one CLICK ME . I just want to make sure you weren't confused by posting in the wrong place!
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SW17LS, I think you are participating in the wrong forums! Can I suggest this one CLICK ME . I just want to make sure you weren't confused by posting in the wrong place!
Not likely lol
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The Genesis G70 just lost Consumers Reports recommended status over below average reliability issues.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-cars-l...174125338.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-cars-l...174125338.html
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The Genesis G70 just lost Consumers Reports recommended status over below average reliability issues.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-cars-l...174125338.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/12-cars-l...174125338.html
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Here's what the good folks at CR are warning us about regarding the Genesis G70:
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/gene...date-1-review/
2019 Genesis G70 Long-Term Update 1: A Surprising Turn of Events
Well, this is awkward. Our COTY winner has … issues
Oct 29, 2019
The first long-term update for a vehicle added to the MotorTrend garage is when we list all the vital testing information about our new vehicle. Our shiny new Genesis G70 3.3T should have had about 2,000 miles on the clock by now, with a dash out to Auto Club Speedway in Fontana to run the gamut of 0-60, 60-0, quarter-mile, skidpad, and figure-eight tests.
Except in the case of our 2019 MotorTrend Car of the Year winner, you're going to have to wait another month. Because it broke. Twice.
It's almost ironic. When we named the Alfa Romeo Giulia our 2018 Car of the Year winner, the peanut gallery snarked about how our delicate Italian confection would be spending all its time in the shop. Except it didn't. It ran great for a year and 22,000-plus hassle-free miles.
By HealthyGeorge
It all started in my driveway, in which I back uphill to a street, and, once I back out, I am then facing uphill. An interesting task for any transmission. Except that, when cold, the Genesis 3.3T would shift from reverse into drive with an ominous clunk. Whereupon, when driving for the first five minutes, the eight-speed automatic transmission would be plagued with random shift patterns out of context with its duty cycle.
More seriously, when asked for forceful acceleration (necessary when turning left from my quiet residential street onto a major artery), the transmission would seemingly slip and fail to deliver propulsion, while engine revs would scream to redline. This would happen for a terrifying three-Mississippi count as I drifted into cross traffic, until the tranny would sort itself out with another clunk and finally deliver power.
Once warmed up, or on a longer drive, there were no issues. The powertrain delivered prompt, rapid acceleration. Thus, I thought this was a teething problem and would sort itself out. But the issue started happening more frequently, about half the mornings I asked it to do this, and at the 1,200-mile mark I took it to the local Genesis (read: Hyundai) dealer. I also informed Genesis PR of the issue.
The instant Lexus-like response: Replace the transmission, and the transmission control unit. The instant un-Lexus-like service: Oil-stained seats.
Still, problem solved, yes? No.
Upon return of the car, the G70 still didn't feel right. It felt significantly slower than before. Although the transmission was no longer lurching and performing erratically, it felt like the power delivery was restricted. <snip>
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/gene...date-1-review/
2019 Genesis G70 Long-Term Update 1: A Surprising Turn of Events
Well, this is awkward. Our COTY winner has … issues
Oct 29, 2019
The first long-term update for a vehicle added to the MotorTrend garage is when we list all the vital testing information about our new vehicle. Our shiny new Genesis G70 3.3T should have had about 2,000 miles on the clock by now, with a dash out to Auto Club Speedway in Fontana to run the gamut of 0-60, 60-0, quarter-mile, skidpad, and figure-eight tests.
Except in the case of our 2019 MotorTrend Car of the Year winner, you're going to have to wait another month. Because it broke. Twice.
It's almost ironic. When we named the Alfa Romeo Giulia our 2018 Car of the Year winner, the peanut gallery snarked about how our delicate Italian confection would be spending all its time in the shop. Except it didn't. It ran great for a year and 22,000-plus hassle-free miles.
By HealthyGeorge
It all started in my driveway, in which I back uphill to a street, and, once I back out, I am then facing uphill. An interesting task for any transmission. Except that, when cold, the Genesis 3.3T would shift from reverse into drive with an ominous clunk. Whereupon, when driving for the first five minutes, the eight-speed automatic transmission would be plagued with random shift patterns out of context with its duty cycle.
More seriously, when asked for forceful acceleration (necessary when turning left from my quiet residential street onto a major artery), the transmission would seemingly slip and fail to deliver propulsion, while engine revs would scream to redline. This would happen for a terrifying three-Mississippi count as I drifted into cross traffic, until the tranny would sort itself out with another clunk and finally deliver power.
Once warmed up, or on a longer drive, there were no issues. The powertrain delivered prompt, rapid acceleration. Thus, I thought this was a teething problem and would sort itself out. But the issue started happening more frequently, about half the mornings I asked it to do this, and at the 1,200-mile mark I took it to the local Genesis (read: Hyundai) dealer. I also informed Genesis PR of the issue.
The instant Lexus-like response: Replace the transmission, and the transmission control unit. The instant un-Lexus-like service: Oil-stained seats.
Still, problem solved, yes? No.
Upon return of the car, the G70 still didn't feel right. It felt significantly slower than before. Although the transmission was no longer lurching and performing erratically, it felt like the power delivery was restricted. <snip>
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Here's what the good folks at CR are warning us about regarding the Genesis G70:
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/gene...date-1-review/
2019 Genesis G70 Long-Term Update 1: A Surprising Turn of Events
Well, this is awkward. Our COTY winner has … issues
Oct 29, 2019
The first long-term update for a vehicle added to the MotorTrend garage is when we list all the vital testing information about our new vehicle. Our shiny new Genesis G70 3.3T should have had about 2,000 miles on the clock by now, with a dash out to Auto Club Speedway in Fontana to run the gamut of 0-60, 60-0, quarter-mile, skidpad, and figure-eight tests.
Except in the case of our 2019 MotorTrend Car of the Year winner, you're going to have to wait another month. Because it broke. Twice.
It's almost ironic. When we named the Alfa Romeo Giulia our 2018 Car of the Year winner, the peanut gallery snarked about how our delicate Italian confection would be spending all its time in the shop. Except it didn't. It ran great for a year and 22,000-plus hassle-free miles.
By HealthyGeorge
It all started in my driveway, in which I back uphill to a street, and, once I back out, I am then facing uphill. An interesting task for any transmission. Except that, when cold, the Genesis 3.3T would shift from reverse into drive with an ominous clunk. Whereupon, when driving for the first five minutes, the eight-speed automatic transmission would be plagued with random shift patterns out of context with its duty cycle.
More seriously, when asked for forceful acceleration (necessary when turning left from my quiet residential street onto a major artery), the transmission would seemingly slip and fail to deliver propulsion, while engine revs would scream to redline. This would happen for a terrifying three-Mississippi count as I drifted into cross traffic, until the tranny would sort itself out with another clunk and finally deliver power.
Once warmed up, or on a longer drive, there were no issues. The powertrain delivered prompt, rapid acceleration. Thus, I thought this was a teething problem and would sort itself out. But the issue started happening more frequently, about half the mornings I asked it to do this, and at the 1,200-mile mark I took it to the local Genesis (read: Hyundai) dealer. I also informed Genesis PR of the issue.
The instant Lexus-like response: Replace the transmission, and the transmission control unit. The instant un-Lexus-like service: Oil-stained seats.
Still, problem solved, yes? No.
Upon return of the car, the G70 still didn't feel right. It felt significantly slower than before. Although the transmission was no longer lurching and performing erratically, it felt like the power delivery was restricted. <snip>
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/gene...date-1-review/
2019 Genesis G70 Long-Term Update 1: A Surprising Turn of Events
Well, this is awkward. Our COTY winner has … issues
Oct 29, 2019
The first long-term update for a vehicle added to the MotorTrend garage is when we list all the vital testing information about our new vehicle. Our shiny new Genesis G70 3.3T should have had about 2,000 miles on the clock by now, with a dash out to Auto Club Speedway in Fontana to run the gamut of 0-60, 60-0, quarter-mile, skidpad, and figure-eight tests.
Except in the case of our 2019 MotorTrend Car of the Year winner, you're going to have to wait another month. Because it broke. Twice.
It's almost ironic. When we named the Alfa Romeo Giulia our 2018 Car of the Year winner, the peanut gallery snarked about how our delicate Italian confection would be spending all its time in the shop. Except it didn't. It ran great for a year and 22,000-plus hassle-free miles.
By HealthyGeorge
It all started in my driveway, in which I back uphill to a street, and, once I back out, I am then facing uphill. An interesting task for any transmission. Except that, when cold, the Genesis 3.3T would shift from reverse into drive with an ominous clunk. Whereupon, when driving for the first five minutes, the eight-speed automatic transmission would be plagued with random shift patterns out of context with its duty cycle.
More seriously, when asked for forceful acceleration (necessary when turning left from my quiet residential street onto a major artery), the transmission would seemingly slip and fail to deliver propulsion, while engine revs would scream to redline. This would happen for a terrifying three-Mississippi count as I drifted into cross traffic, until the tranny would sort itself out with another clunk and finally deliver power.
Once warmed up, or on a longer drive, there were no issues. The powertrain delivered prompt, rapid acceleration. Thus, I thought this was a teething problem and would sort itself out. But the issue started happening more frequently, about half the mornings I asked it to do this, and at the 1,200-mile mark I took it to the local Genesis (read: Hyundai) dealer. I also informed Genesis PR of the issue.
The instant Lexus-like response: Replace the transmission, and the transmission control unit. The instant un-Lexus-like service: Oil-stained seats.
Still, problem solved, yes? No.
Upon return of the car, the G70 still didn't feel right. It felt significantly slower than before. Although the transmission was no longer lurching and performing erratically, it felt like the power delivery was restricted. <snip>
Racer
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From: oh
Genesis and Hyundai make quality cars.
Regardless, it doesn't change how I and many others seems to feel about CR. Don't base your buying decisions on ANYTHING they say.
BTW, CR also found the Genesis G70 reliability to be below average in some other areas including problems with the engine, brakes and paint.
Instructor
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From: califronia
test drove it wheel spin, and torque steer with a 50k car not for me, and no fwd
wait for the v6 or don't buy the fwd
and that was with brand new tires, imagine half worn
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