john341

That is not True. You can use the Key fob to remote start the car there is no dedicated button Like GM Keys.
Here is how you start the car using the Key fob(this is still part of the subscription, this method will stop working when the subscription expires):

mikemu30

Yep - I've seen this and it has literally never worked for me. I gave up months ago and just use the app.

Mike728

You need to be about as close as depicted in the video.

jimv1983

That would seriously decrease the range.

The fact is it is a monthly on going cost for Lexus to provide that service. They do provide Service Connect for 10 years which is already a big surprise.

mikemu30

I'll try again - I've done it standing right next to the car - no dice.

oldcajun

Does it start from your phone? If not, there is probably an issue with your enform remote subscription. Mine got screwed up for a while when they updated their software but works fine now. I normally use the phone for remote start since the key fob range is very limited.

mikemu30

Starts from the phone EVERY TIME.

Mike728

I just went through the key starting process with my parent's 2019 ES. They have older phones, so they can't use the phone starting app. I showed them how to start my 2013 with the key and then asked them to try it on their 2019. No dice, so I tried it. Again, it wouldn't start. After several failed attempts, I found you have to press the lock 3x as quickly as possible, where with the old starter, you had to pause in between presses. So, the process is the same "lock, lock, lock (hold)", but no pauses. It takes what seems like 25 seconds before the lights start to flash and the car starts up. Mine starts much sooner than that.

mikemu30

So three rapid "locks" and hold on the 3rd for 25 seconds. I'll try again. I may get a cramp in my hand doing that often

SciGuy

Two things annoy me so far -

When turning the engine off, the audio turns off as well... whether I am on the phone hands-free or listening to music.

So if I want to sit in my car and continue to talk with someone or listen to music, I have to leave the engine running OR turn the car completely off, then turn it back on without pressing the brake pedal... then wait patiently for the system to turn on with the Lexus graphic etc...

In my previous vehicle, I could turn the car off and the audio/phone would still work... only ending the audio or phone connection when I open my door handle.

I find the touchpad too sensitive even when sensitivity is lowered and speed is changed to slow. It regularly skips over options even when I am trying to move the cursor slowly and carefully. I do miss the touch screen in my previous vehicle... quick, straightforward and consistent with less requirement to pay attention especially when driving.

jimv1983

I partly agree about the touch pad. I think I'll be able to get used to it. What I do like is the location of the screen. It's father up the dash making it easier to see without taking my eyes off the road. However, that causes the downside of a touch screen not really working because of how far you'd have to reach. The touch pad isn't great but of all the non-touch screen opinions I think it is the best I've used. I've been in cars that have the rotating dial or the old sliding joystick that Lexus used before the touch pad. Both of those are worse in my opinion.

calgold06

Touchpad - if there is a wheel/click (like Mercedes and others) sold 3rd party, I will be willing to pay up to $500 and get rid of touchpad.

mikemu30

I feel like Ive mastered the touch pad after just a few weeks of ownership. It works much better than the mouse in our RX although honestly I got comfortable with that as well.

LeeSoFL

Solution is place car in Neutral, press stop to shut engine, then shift to Park. All accessory devices retain power. To cancel you need to press Start button again.

scoresman

Annoyances:

Otherwise, a great car.