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Old 09-24-18, 07:14 AM
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1. i dont abuse any vehicle i dont own. theres a diference between a little spirited driving vs hooning the crap out of one.

2. there is no break in period for Lexus. its kind of a myth these days for (most) new cars. you will never see a lexus with 2 miles on it at the dealership. they typically have between 17-25 miles on them, atleast from what ive seen.

3. the car that ended up with a lifter tick was a pontiac, 10 years ago.

4. i created this review to give people an idea to what the new ES is like, not to get accused of abusing cars. maybe i shouldnt have wasted my time writing this.
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Originally Posted by Stereorob
1. i dont abuse any vehicle i dont own. theres a diference between a little spirited driving vs hooning the crap out of one.

2. there is no break in period for Lexus. its kind of a myth these days for (most) new cars. you will never see a lexus with 2 miles on it at the dealership. they typically have between 17-25 miles on them, atleast from what ive seen.

3. the car that ended up with a lifter tick was a pontiac, 10 years ago.

4. i created this review to give people an idea to what the new ES is like, not to get accused of abusing cars. maybe i shouldnt have wasted my time writing this.
The one I test drove this past weekend already had 50 miles on it.
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Originally Posted by Stereorob
1. i dont abuse any vehicle i dont own. theres a diference between a little spirited driving vs hooning the crap out of one.

2. there is no break in period for Lexus. its kind of a myth these days for (most) new cars. you will never see a lexus with 2 miles on it at the dealership. they typically have between 17-25 miles on them, atleast from what ive seen.

3. the car that ended up with a lifter tick was a pontiac, 10 years ago.

4. i created this review to give people an idea to what the new ES is like, not to get accused of abusing cars. maybe i shouldnt have wasted my time writing this.
I would suggest reading the manual for the car YOU'RE selling before making something up...It clearly talks about the break in rules, and goes into detail as far as what should and should not be done with the car for the first 600 or so miles......

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Old 09-24-18, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
I plan to test drive an FSport soon but still trying to get over the fake leather in a $50K+ vehicle.

the NuLuxe is actually better than the real thing. i know it sounds crazy but it is almost impossible to tell the difference. NuLuxe doesn't come from a cow, but its way more forgiving than traditional leather. doesn't stain as easy, rip as easy, it doesn't crack or dry out at least from what ive seen so far and ive seen a heck of a lot of them. i will say the first year or so of the NuLuxe there was a slight difference. now, i cant tell. it took me awhile to accept fake leather in a Lexus as well, just like accepting an LS with a V6, time takes the angst away.

however, i myself am curious how it will hold up in the long haul, say 10-15 years down the road.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
Nice pictures. I do really like the new ES.

The only thing I don't like in these pictures is the steering wheel. It looks terrible with that bunched up leather. It should be smooth.
the luxury versions still have the wood wheel, but its inverted. kinda interesting actually. it gives you the nice wood wheel but leather around the outside so you wont get 3rd degree burns when the car has been sitting in the sun all day.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
Nice pictures. I do really like the new ES.

The only thing I don't like in these pictures is the steering wheel. It looks terrible with that bunched up leather. It should be smooth.

Do note that it is not on the GA-L platform as you said in the review, but the GA-K.
I test drove an FSport this weekend and the wheel definitely didn't have that bunched up look to it.
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Old 09-24-18, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
I test drove an FSport this weekend and the wheel definitely didn't have that bunched up look to it.
wheel isnt bunched up at all. probably just the lighting.
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Originally Posted by Stereorob
wheel isnt bunched up at all. probably just the lighting.
I hope you're right, though I'm having a tough time seeing this as a lighting issue. This looks pretty bad to me.




I've looked at other ES pictures online and I have found about half of them looking like this.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I hope you're right, though I'm having a tough time seeing this as a lighting issue. This looks pretty bad to me.




I've looked at other ES pictures online and I have found about half of them looking like this.

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^^^ That one looks much, much better!
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Originally Posted by JDR76
^^^ That one looks much, much better!
Like I said, I test drove one this weekend and it was fine. Now I'll be watching for this though 😁
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Originally Posted by SuperMido
I would suggest reading the manual for the car YOU'RE selling before making something up...It clearly talks about the break in rules, and goes into detail as far as what should and should not be done with the car for the first 600 or so miles......
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure I've read in my Lexus manual that there is in fact no break-in period.
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Originally Posted by signdetres
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure I've read in my Lexus manual that there is in fact no break-in period.
That surprises me. There is a recommended break-in procedure on my 2015 GS. From page 162 of my manual:
■Breaking in your new Lexus
To extend the life of the vehicle, observing the following precautions is recommended:
●For the first 186 miles (300 km):
Avoid sudden stops.
●For the first 621 miles (1000 km):
• Do not drive at extremely high speeds.
• Avoid sudden acceleration.
• Do not drive continuously in low gears.
• Do not drive at a constant speed for extended periods.
■Drum-in-disc type parking brake system
Your vehicle has a drum-in-disc type parking brake system. This type of brake system
needs bedding-down of the brake shoes periodically or whenever the parking brake
shoes and/or drum are replaced. Have your Lexus dealer perform the bedding
down operation.
■Operating your vehicle in a foreign country
Comply with the relevant vehicle registration laws and confirm the availability of the
correct fuel. (P. 538)
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Originally Posted by signdetres
You sure about that? I'm pretty sure I've read in my Lexus manual that there is in fact no break-in period.
Yes Sir! Look below, thats on page 129 of the 2019 ES manual.


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Originally Posted by SuperMido
Yes Sir! Look below, thats on page 129 of the 2019 ES manual.

Pretty standard break in suggestions most manufacturers still give.


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