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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 12:19 PM
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Well Artbuc enlightened us all with his superior knowledge so your post was well worthwhile... Thanks Art...

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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 12:23 PM
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But if you don't pay the dealer for Official Lexus Certified Gaseous Nitrogen in your tires, you won't get those nice teal valve stem caps.
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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tfischer
But if you don't pay the dealer for Official Lexus Certified Gaseous Nitrogen in your tires, you won't get those nice teal valve stem caps.
If you buy tires at Costco you get a set of those teal valve stem caps as well.
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Old Aug 3, 2025 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cpq100
If you buy tires at Costco you get a set of those teal valve stem caps as well.
I'm sure dealers love it when you ask them why you should pay their extortion fee for Nitrogen when you can get it free at Costco with the caps included.
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Old Aug 4, 2025 | 06:26 AM
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I recall reading the Nitrogen Fill Sales Spin that pointed out that Race Car Teams use nitrogen in race car tires.
Matter of convenience it would seem because the Air Powered Wrenches are connected to a cylinder of nitrogen
gas because a cylinder of simple compressed air would contain oxygen and be a fire hazard if ruptured.
See, we use nitrogen in race car tires!
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Old Aug 4, 2025 | 07:40 AM
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Juice is not worth the squeeze!
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Old Aug 4, 2025 | 07:42 AM
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I did it, once. Because it was the "nitrogen fill" along with a road hazard warranty. The road hazard warranty paid for the whole deal (cut sidewall on one of the "nitrogen filled" tires) so I broke even anyway.

Never again, though.
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Old Aug 4, 2025 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by artbuc
... Kelvin is Celsius plus 273.16. ...
Hmm...
That should be plus 273.15.

Perhaps you've gotten the number used in the old, no-longer-used SI definition of kelvin derived from the triple point of water at standard atmospheric pressure, 273.16ºK; 0.01ºC, mixed up with the celsius to kelvin conversion constant. The celsius temperature scale sets 0ºC at the freezing point of water at standard atmospheric pressure so the conversion constant between the two temperature scales is 273.15.
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Old Aug 4, 2025 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by grp52
Hmm...
That should be plus 273.15.

Perhaps you've gotten the number used in the old, no-longer-used SI definition of kelvin derived from the triple point of water at standard atmospheric pressure, 273.16ºK; 0.01ºC, mixed up with the celsius to kelvin conversion constant. The celsius temperature scale sets 0ºC at the freezing point of water at standard atmospheric pressure so the conversion constant between the two temperature scales is 273.15.
Good catch…stuck in the 70’s. However, you must admit there is some variability/uncertainty in the triple point of water. Most would agree that 0° is close enough and so is 273.16K. Wait another 10 years and it will be adjusted again.

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Old Aug 5, 2025 | 08:36 AM
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PV=nRT ...

Just try'n to be helpful isall

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Old Aug 5, 2025 | 08:55 AM
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if U fill the tires with Helium will the car be lighter?
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Old Aug 5, 2025 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by barncobob63
if U fill the tires with Helium will the car be lighter?
Helium molecules are smaller than air/nitrogen so they will escape the tire faster and you will losing PSI more quickly.
That's why helium balloons deflate so quickly.
Also the weight difference will be almost negligible while price will be definitely higher than Nitrogen.

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Old Aug 6, 2025 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pab12
PV=nRT ...

Just try'n to be helpful isall
Right, this gas law combines Boyle, Charles, Gay Lussac and Avogadro. It is for ideal gas only.
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Old Aug 6, 2025 | 08:35 AM
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>It is for ideal gas only.
Ideal is always an intention of mine
:-)

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Old Aug 9, 2025 | 07:12 AM
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If you want to race your Lexus in F1, you should fill it up with nitrogen like all other F1 cars do.
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