None of the ES 7th Gen trims have run flat tires. I think the LC 500 does. I guess I could see it on cars that don't carry a spare, but they are crazy expensive to replace.

 

[QUOTE=YumpinYiminy;11656051]None of the ES 7th Gen trims have run flat tires. I think the LC 500 does. I guess I could see it on cars that don't carry a spare, but they are crazy expensive to replace.[/

When it’s time for new tires, you can replace all four with standard run flats, right?

 

Nope. I will stick with the more comfortable tire.

 

[QUOTE=Shaboom;11656084]Yes - Just try to keep the same size. Or at least the same dia. otherwise your speedo will be off.

 

That isn't correct. That's a condition only on the complementary service "Travel Protection" for both new and L/Certified used vehicles. From the XXXX Lexus ES 350, ES 250 Warranty and Services Guide:
and from the L/CERTIFIED BY LEXUS WARRANTY SUPPLEMENT AND ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE GUIDE:

For L/Certified used vehicles only, the condition also applies to Roadside Assistance's towing component. Also from the L/CERTIFIED GUIDE :
Except for the L/Certified used vehicles' towing warranty condition, there's no warranty restricting condition on Roadside Assistance including for the usual things such as jump starts, flat tire help, etc.

 

Don't quite understand what you are saying. The roadside assistance coverage is for 48 mths which includes tire change. After that towing is covered due to a failure of a warranted part which would not cover a tire change. This is my quote from above "Haven't looked lately but think that is a courtesy covered under basic warranty of 48 mths. After that the towing etc would have to be caused by an item under warranty. After the 48 I got it through my insurance co."

 

Ok - Now I'm confused. Is this conversation about the "SOS" Safety Connect? I thought you get a 10 year trial with the 12.3" infotainment screen upgrade. As well as Service Connect for 10 years. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Service Connect was a fancy way to get your dealer maintenance service on your vehicle (I know it's not an extended warrantee).
I'll have to read the small print on the SOS function. My 2013 Avalon Limited had I think a 3 year trial of Safety Connect (SOS). After that you had to pay for the service on a annual basis. It covered towing and roadside assistance. I used it twice and just hit the SOS button. I never paid anything other than the subscription.
Speaking of Toyotas. I thought I saw on YouTube that Toyota customers were complaining about having to pay for "NAV Assistant" after the trial period. I think the compromise from Toyota was that if you subscribed (paid) to any connected service they included the "Nav Assistant". I haven't heard of Lexus doing the same.
Anybody in the know?

 

That wasn't the quote I was commenting on.

 

There are two category bins for the SOS button. One is the bog standard 48 month long (for new vehicles) Roadside Assistance connection to the Lexus Safety Connect response center. The other is Safety Connect's "Enhanced Roadside Assistance" which requires an active Safety Connect subscription (either trial or paid) for a working connection to the Lexus Safety Connect response center, but the "Enhanced" part is just using GPS technology in determining your vehicle's location to pass on to the service provider. However, I think if you don't have an "active" Roadside Assistance the Lexus Safety Connect response center will just offer provider options for the service you need and whatever you choose you'll be responsible for paying for it (towing charges for longer than 48 month term warranty covered breakdowns excepted). Or at least that's what I think the Lexus support article WHAT IS LEXUS ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE?:
means.
The Safety Connect trial period for the ES has varied between 3 years and 10 years. For a year or two (2022 and maybe 2021) the trial period was two years and outside that period it has been 10 years.

Safety Connect covers more than just using the SOS button to connect to the Lexus Safety Connect response center for help. It includes STOLEN VEHICLE LOCATER, ENHANCED ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE, EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE BUTTON (SOS), and AUTOMATIC COLLISION NOTIFICATION (as the My Lexus Connected Technology web page categorizes the components).



Lexus has/does charge for that.

For model years 2019 to 2022, Destination Assist (for Navigation equipped ESs) is $80 per year after the 1 year trial period. Since it isn't much more than having a Lexus support drone look up a desired destination using a web search engine and then downloading the location into the vehicle's navigation system probably not that many people continue on with paying for it after the trial period.

For model years 2023 and later, Destination Assist is bundled in with the Drive Connect subscription which is $16 per month after the (if any) trial subscription period expiration. So, even though there's isn't a separately cancellable charge for it one is still paying for it with a paid Drive Connect subscription.

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Boy, did this post go sideways or what?