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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 11:20 PM
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Hello,

Given that the 2016 ES (and a few late model 2015's) is now produced in Kentucky, I was wondering if anyone noticed any differences between the two.

Obviously there's going to be a few differences (regardless of the place of manufacture) as the 2016 ES has gone through a mid-cycle refresh.

But in regards to manufacturing oversights / quality issues; has anyone noticed any problems with the new 2016's?

Thank you,
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 04:52 AM
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There were no 2015's built in KY. I have no first hand experience, but some have mentioned issues with their rear doors being harder to close. Otherwise, it's probably too early to know.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nelsona
Hello,

Given that the 2016 ES (and a few late model 2015's) is now produced in Kentucky, I was wondering if anyone noticed any differences between the two.

Obviously there's going to be a few differences (regardless of the place of manufacture) as the 2016 ES has gone through a mid-cycle refresh.

But in regards to manufacturing oversights / quality issues; has anyone noticed any problems with the new 2016's?

Thank you,
Nelson
Keep in mind that only the ES350 is made in KY. The ES300h is still made in Japan.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 06:20 AM
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It usually takes at least one year for kinks to be eliminated in assembly and production for a new car plant. Same for a new car model. I, for one, would not buy a new car from such a plant until a year had passed and all of the numerous TSB's had been addressed. I believe that ultimately the Kentucky Lexus will be every bit as good in quality as the one from Japan.
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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 02:43 PM
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My '16 ES UL was made in Japan.

I bought it in Dec. After 6K miles no problems thus far!
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by irishbrahm
My '16 ES UL was made in Japan.

I bought it in Dec. After 6K miles no problems thus far!
Is your ES a 300 or 350?
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Old Mar 30, 2016 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jollick
Is your ES a 300 or 350?
It's a ES350.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by irishbrahm
My '16 ES UL was made in Japan.

I bought it in Dec. After 6K miles no problems thus far!

No one should be expecting problems with a Lexus ES after 6k miles. Hopefully in the future, you can still say "After 150k miles, no problems this far!"

How did your 2006 BMW 3 series fair in terms of reliability and longevity? Or was that a lease?
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AircraftX
No one should be expecting problems with a Lexus ES after 6k miles. Hopefully in the future, you can still say "After 150k miles, no problems this far!"

How did your 2006 BMW 3 series fair in terms of reliability and longevity? Or was that a lease?
I bought the '06 BMW as a CPO. I had two problems over the 3.5 years that I had the car. The first was a defective U-joint in the steering rack (luckily covered by the CPO warranty). The second was with a mysterious battery drain which ended up being a failing resistor (CPO warranty had expired).
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 09:16 AM
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For what it is worth:
Lexus Manufacturing Plants in Kentucky and Japan Win J.D. Power Platinum Awards
https://lexusenthusiast.com/2016/06/...atinum-awards/
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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That is both interesting and encouraging - hope it continues that way.

Dave Mac
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 10:45 AM
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There was quite a discussion here:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-us-build.html
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