Notices
ES - 1st to 6th Gen (1990-2018) Forum for all 1990 - 2018 ES Models

switching from regular to synthetic oil?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 06:14 PM
  #16  
MikePA's Avatar
MikePA
Rookie
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: PA
Default

The engines are broken in before they are installed in the vehicle.
Reply
Old Oct 28, 2013 | 09:16 PM
  #17  
ThumperPup's Avatar
ThumperPup
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,872
Likes: 69
From: Utah
Default

most engine plants are not even in the same building as the assembly lines for the vehicles
think about it like this
how many times do you see a window sticker 40% us 60% japan
well not those exact numbers but along those lines
a power-train is build in one area then transported to finale assembly installed in the car
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2013 | 03:41 AM
  #18  
Paul3637's Avatar
Paul3637
Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 103
Likes: 3
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by unklexus
About 2000 new vehicles (Camrys/hybrids) come off the assembly line in Georgetown every workday. For them to build out that many cars and put in break-in oil, take all those cars out for a 100 - 200 mile drive or put them on the dyno/rollers for a while, break the engines in, then take them back over and drain out the break-in oil, put in new synthetic oil, then send the car for final inspection and out to the lot......two thousand times a day. Wow. Impressive. Maybe 3000 gallons of used break-in oil a day. Wonder if they recycle?
*************
Amen. Toyota plants are extremely environmentally friendly. There is no "recycled oil" facility at the Georgetown plant to handle that much volume..

I was going to post something similar ....... but I decided the notion of dino oil for break in was so absurd .........

The Mobil 1 website explains that the "no synthetic oil for break-in" is a myth and tells of all the cars which use it as a factory fill.

Yeah .... I can just see them pouring dino oil into all those Bentleys, Mercedes, & Corvettes, too..
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2013 | 05:38 AM
  #19  
jagtoes's Avatar
jagtoes
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,270
Likes: 56
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by Paul3637
*************
Amen. Toyota plants are extremely environmentally friendly. There is no "recycled oil" facility at the Georgetown plant to handle that much volume..

I was going to post something similar ....... but I decided the notion of dino oil for break in was so absurd .........

The Mobil 1 website explains that the "no synthetic oil for break-in" is a myth and tells of all the cars which use it as a factory fill.

Yeah .... I can just see them pouring dino oil into all those Bentleys, Mercedes, & Corvettes, too..
Unlike Toyota I believe the Lexus is still made in Japan and exported to the US. I wonder what oil they use over there. Also if there was a year that Lexus changed over to syn. oil. I purchased my 1st new Lexus in 2008 and replaced it with a new one in 2010. Bought from the same dealer in downstate NY and both cars came with 5W-30 Castrol dino oil. I would imagine there is a significant cost difference using syn. vs. dino oil in every car produced.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2013 | 12:49 PM
  #20  
Paul3637's Avatar
Paul3637
Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 103
Likes: 3
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by jagtoes
Unlike Toyota I believe the Lexus is still made in Japan and exported to the US. I wonder what oil they use over there. Also if there was a year that Lexus changed over to syn. oil. I purchased my 1st new Lexus in 2008 and replaced it with a new one in 2010. Bought from the same dealer in downstate NY and both cars came with 5W-30 Castrol dino oil. I would imagine there is a significant cost difference using syn. vs. dino oil in every car produced.
************************
Dino is correct through MY 2012, But. on the 2GR-FE 3.5L V6 they switched to synthetic in model year 2013 for the LexusES & Avalon (which share the same platform). Toyota made the switch for 2012 on the Camry and 2011 on the Highlander. (My ex has an '11 Highlander SE AWD which uses 0W20 and 10K oil change interval).

From the lexus owners manual:

http://www.lexus.com/pdf/service/MY1...350_WSG_lr.pdf

Page 48........ 10,000 mile/one year oil change with 0W20 oil. 5,000 mile oil change is only required for "special operating conditions" which for the most part means short trips in cold weather.

Last edited by Paul3637; Nov 4, 2013 at 12:59 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2013 | 04:49 PM
  #21  
MikePA's Avatar
MikePA
Rookie
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
From: PA
Default

Originally Posted by Paul3637
*************
Amen. Toyota plants are extremely environmentally friendly. There is no "recycled oil" facility at the Georgetown plant to handle that much volume..

I was going to post something similar ....... but I decided the notion of dino oil for break in was so absurd .........

The Mobil 1 website explains that the "no synthetic oil for break-in" is a myth and tells of all the cars which use it as a factory fill.

Yeah .... I can just see them pouring dino oil into all those Bentleys, Mercedes, & Corvettes, too..
And how many engines have you rebuilt? Zero?

Break in oil has higher zinc content. Amsoil, Royal Purple and Redline all make specific new engine break in oil, which is the topic. It is usually dino, but doesn't have to be.

No one but you made the absurd claim that break in oil has to be drained and replaced with non-break in oil when the engine goes in the car.
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2013 | 06:39 AM
  #22  
LexBob2's Avatar
LexBob2
Lexus Champion
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,553
Likes: 278
From: Illinois
Default

Originally Posted by babyduke
2009 ES350

This car's been getting regular oil change all along. Would it be ok for me to tell the mechanic to do synthetic from now on so that I don't have to get it done less frequently?
What did you end up doing? Dino or synthetic?
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2013 | 10:37 AM
  #23  
garsarno's Avatar
garsarno
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,834
Likes: 6
From: PA
Default

Just my 2 cents: I have always changed the oil / filter on my new cars after the first 1000 miles to Mobil 1. No engine mechanical issues ever.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2013 | 05:42 PM
  #24  
CQRT's Avatar
CQRT
Driver
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 4
From: AZ
Default

The OP wasn't asking for a debate about whether or not he should switch to synthetic . . yaddah . . .yaddah . . - he's asking if it's OK to do so.

Correct asnwer: YES.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2013 | 03:21 PM
  #25  
Paul3637's Avatar
Paul3637
Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 103
Likes: 3
From: Florida
Default

Originally Posted by jagtoes
Agreed and now days most new cars come with syn oil. I believe in using whatever came in the car new. So in the case of my 2010 ES when I picked it up I asked the service manager what oil they used and I have stuck with it . I also had 6 filters and a dozen Lexus /Titilest ProV1 ***** included in the deal. So I still use Castrol 5W-30 dino oil and only have a sleeve of golf ***** left LOL.
*********
This is correct. Along with the above post that says the OP just wanted to know if it's OK.

I use 5W30 Mobil 1 in my 09 2GR-FE V6. Sorry It's a Camry .. I got into this forum because my "ex" drove two Lexus that I paid for

[She now has a 2011 2GR-FE Highlander SE AWD and uses Toyota 0W20 from dealer every 10K miles.]

07-11 Camry V6 and 07-12 ES350 share the same powertrain with the same conventional 5W30 regular 5K oil change interval.

In my case, Mobil 1 5W30 synthetic beginning at 40K miles performs EXACTLY like Pennzoil 5W30 conventional oil did. Zero oil consumption ..... still looks clean after 5,000 miles ..... great gas mileage.

With Mobil 1 5W30 synthetic, I go 6,500 miles to even out the cost and still there is zero consumption and the oil still looks mighty clean the day before oil change.

Last edited by Paul3637; Nov 11, 2013 at 03:52 PM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jawadarsha
ES - 1st to 6th Gen (1990-2018)
8
Apr 29, 2015 08:47 AM
Jewcano
Maintenance
4
Apr 1, 2006 08:43 PM
noosense00
RX - 2nd Gen (2004-2009)
16
Mar 2, 2005 11:50 PM
RA40
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000)
8
Aug 24, 2004 12:16 AM
claymax
SC - 1st Gen (1992-2000)
10
Aug 7, 2001 10:13 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:01 PM.