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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bc6152
Well I don't carry bulky items in the Lexus anyway. They go into the Honda...
I would argue that most of us carry “stuff” in our cars. I already have a bugger of a time getting my father-in-law’s walker in the trunk (which is smaller on the hybrid) and it’s easier to transport him in the sedan than our crossover utility.

The shorter trunk lid seems like a sportier look and as Lexus has stated they are targeting a younger age group I would imagine this fits right into their strategy.
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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 05:50 AM
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I would argue that most of us carry “stuff” in our cars. I already have a bugger of a time getting my father-in-law’s walker in the trunk (which is smaller on the hybrid) and it’s easier to transport him in the sedan than our crossover utility.

Even though I typically plan to use the GX when I know that I will need to carry bulky items, I occasionally have the need to put something that is bulkier in the trunk in the trunk of the ES. For example, when I needed to buy a new microwave, even though it would otherwise have fit in the trunk, because I couldn't get it through the relatively small opening to the Generation 6 ES trunk, I had to put it into back seat to get it home. Also, with living in a location where it is a 30 mile round trip to the grocery store, I typically keep a small cooler in the trunk. With my Generation 6 ES, I had to get an even smaller cooler because the one that I had been using would not fit through the opening of the trunk.

If the Generation 7 trunk opening is even smaller, which appears to be likely, I would consider that to be a practical drawback.

A true "fastback trunk" would be designed with the back window being a part of the "trunk lid" and the hinges would be above the back window. With that entire lid lifting as a unit, there would be a very large opening to the trunk space. But I can't imagine that Lexus would have chosen to go that route with the Generation 7 ES.
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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 06:31 PM
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This ES is so beautiful! Looking forward to what the GS will look like. Really want to buy a new GS, hopefully they do a great job like they did with the 19 ES.
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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JJaySilver
This ES is so beautiful! Looking forward to what the GS will look like. Really want to buy a new GS, hopefully they do a great job like they did with the 19 ES.
I am not sure there is going to be a new GS.

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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JJaySilver
Really want to buy a new GS, hopefully they do a great job like they did with the 19 ES.
Originally Posted by Dave Mac
I am not sure there is going to be a new GS.

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From everything that I've read and heard, when the Generation 4 GS ends its run, that will be the end of the GS. A few months ago, I was talking with a sales manager at a Lexus dealership. He had just been to a Lexus corporate training session, and he was told there that there will not be a Generation 5 GS.

With continuing low demand for sedans, it becomes increasingly difficult for Lexus to justify continuing to offer 4 sedan lines, and, with fewer than 8000 GS vehicles sold for the entire 2017 model year, the GS would be the likely candidate to be dropped from the line. Further, the Generation 5 LS was designed to appeal to some GS buyers, and the Generation 7 ES appears to be designed to appeal to those at the other end of the GS buyer spectrum.

If, in a year or two, Lexus adds an AWD version of the ES, I suspect that they feel that, between it and the LS F Sport, they will be offering cars at two different price points that would appeal to current GS buyers.

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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by lesz
There is no doubt that the value of a Generation 6 ES will take a hit after the official announcement of the 2019 ES, and there will be another hit when the 2019 ES arrives at dealer showrooms.

The good news, however, is that this will be a great time to buy a new 2018 ES. There are already significant discounts from MSRP available for the 2018 ES, and those will only get bigger as we move through the summer and fall. On the other hand, for those looking to buy a new 2019 ES when they become available, discounting is likely to be minimal at least until well into the 2019 model year.

I guess why I am asking is I am searching for a used ES 350 now, 2015 and wonder if they will drop in prices after this weeks announcement. I am ready to buy just have to find the right car, with the right mileage at a fair price.
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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 10:12 AM
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I guess why I am asking is I am searching for a used ES 350 now, 2015 and wonder if they will drop in prices after this weeks announcement. I am ready to buy just have to find the right car, with the right mileage at a fair price.
As I said in a previous post, there most certainly will be a loss in the re-sale value of a Generation 6 ES when the 2019 Generation 7 ES is officially announced and, again, when it actually becomes available.

But much of that loss of value has already been priced into the re-sale market because a 2019 Generation 7 ES has been anticipated for a year and a half or 2 years. Also, whatever loss there is in the value of a Generation 6 ES will be much bigger, say, for a 2018 ES than it will be for a 2015 ES.
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 04:09 AM
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Default just when i have been tough on lexus

they hit it out of the park with the new es
kind of makes sense
eliminate the Gs, have better driving dynamics that was in the GS mold it into the Ls,

Come up with a 50,000 volume sales sedan that will take on the world.

they struck the right balance with the exterior and the updates to the grille blend in with the combo of sport/luxury of the exterior

lets see what do they do in beijing with the interior.

good job toyota, see toyota your customer base can be fair and objective when you pursue perfection like my 3 LS's i have had
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 08:50 PM
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There is a Thread on the 2019 ES here too. Just in case others didn't know it.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...l#post10181644

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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 10:38 PM
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NICE!!

Man.... one of the main reasons I didn't buy a brand new ES was because I was wanting a red & black interior -just like in the video. Oh well, guess I'll just have to wait til my next one.

Looks freaking awesome!!
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 05:08 AM
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hi all, bunch of new videos on youtube today
this is going to be a home run for lexus

looks nicer than the current gs
has fwd but should handle in between current es and the gs which is a good think the new platform should handle well not as good as rwd but the car would be 7500 more if it had a rwd platform

the interior is nice and yes apple car play is in the videos

the f sport is a nice variant of the car for those looking for a sportier car

all in all lexus needed a home run and looks like they succeeded good job toyota
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 08:24 AM
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Here's another article with about 20 pictures. Ignore the fact they call it an "ES300".

http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...n=awdailydrive
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 08:28 AM
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I don't know, but I thought I seen a spy shot of what looks to be a test mule for the 5th gen GS. I was currently waiting for the 5th gen GS to come out to make my first new car purchase (depending on it's looks). If the GS is truly no more, then I'll just settle for a used 4th gen...damn that new ES is beautiful, if only that was the redesigned 5th gen RWD GS.....
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 02:43 PM
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I got an email from Lexus. Here is a link to the 2019 Lexus ES announcement: http://www.lexus.com/documents/broch...April_2018.pdf

I really like the current (2014 ES) inset of the display to keep the Sun out. I've always desired a larger display, but it'll be interesting to see how it handles with glare, etc.
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Old Apr 25, 2018 | 07:50 PM
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interior ergonomics are frankly horrible as is the instrument cluster. Hell even nissan altima gauge cluster beats this! fail for lexus! Nice exterior
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