Where's the oil filter?
#1
Where's the oil filter?
I am wicked embarrassed to ask this question.
As you all know, I got a 2002 ES with the 1MZ-FE 3.0L VVT-i engine.
I went to change oil and filter today to save a trip to the dealer and a few ducats. This would be the first time changing o&f on this car in my garage myself. (all previous where at dealer.)
Got the car up on ramps, I'm rolling around on a creeper for a half hour.........can't find a thing.....nothing even remotely looking like an oil filter.
HEEELPP!...........where is it?
....and yes, I am laughing at this too.
steviej
As you all know, I got a 2002 ES with the 1MZ-FE 3.0L VVT-i engine.
I went to change oil and filter today to save a trip to the dealer and a few ducats. This would be the first time changing o&f on this car in my garage myself. (all previous where at dealer.)
Got the car up on ramps, I'm rolling around on a creeper for a half hour.........can't find a thing.....nothing even remotely looking like an oil filter.
HEEELPP!...........where is it?
....and yes, I am laughing at this too.
steviej
#2
Never mind, I found it.
I can't believe the people who design engines. They should be made to change the oil in motors with filters in this placement.
It is under the front manifold up high on the block. Toy/Lex filters are dark grey/black and it blended right in with the engine block.
The sad part is it is angled down. No matter what, it is gonna pee out oil all over the place. I know it's got a valve, but it is still gonna leak. I wouldn't mind so much but there is stuff under it, electrical connections, motor mounts, crossmemebers, etc. All the more to get oil on them and collect dirt and crap.
So I'll pack it off with lots of rags. My friend's Saab is really nice.
The oil filter is straight up and down so it holds the oil like a cup. Never a drop is spilled.
Sorry for venting, but sometimes I wonder where the brains are on the people that design these things.
later dudes and dudettes.
steviej
It is under the front manifold up high on the block. Toy/Lex filters are dark grey/black and it blended right in with the engine block.
The sad part is it is angled down. No matter what, it is gonna pee out oil all over the place. I know it's got a valve, but it is still gonna leak. I wouldn't mind so much but there is stuff under it, electrical connections, motor mounts, crossmemebers, etc. All the more to get oil on them and collect dirt and crap.
So I'll pack it off with lots of rags. My friend's Saab is really nice.
The oil filter is straight up and down so it holds the oil like a cup. Never a drop is spilled.
Sorry for venting, but sometimes I wonder where the brains are on the people that design these things.
later dudes and dudettes.
steviej
#3
Super Moderator
i tried to respond to tell you that, but we were having some technical difficulties.
DO NOT BURN YOUR ARM FROM THE MANIFOLD WHILE TAKING OUT THE OLD FILTER!!!!!!!! this is an extremely painful burn you get on the underside of your forearm/wrist from the 1mz engines. the only way to help w/ this problem is to wear some thick long sleeves or wait til the car is cool enough (but oil is thicker). Yes, oil will spill onto the area below it.
tip: use a V8 toyota filter (it's taller) so it is easier to remove next time around.
good luck. anymore Q's you can ask
DO NOT BURN YOUR ARM FROM THE MANIFOLD WHILE TAKING OUT THE OLD FILTER!!!!!!!! this is an extremely painful burn you get on the underside of your forearm/wrist from the 1mz engines. the only way to help w/ this problem is to wear some thick long sleeves or wait til the car is cool enough (but oil is thicker). Yes, oil will spill onto the area below it.
tip: use a V8 toyota filter (it's taller) so it is easier to remove next time around.
good luck. anymore Q's you can ask
#4
I am very aware of the hazards of manifolds......got the scars to prove it.
When I saw the location, my daytime job popped into my head. I can get these little basins from the hospital that will fit right under the oil filter and catch 99% of what comes out. They are slightly curved on one side and straight on the other. They are used to catch something else.....similar to the result of a hard night's drinking....but alas....I digress.
This is a very poor design, especially with a filter that has an anti-back flow valve. Plenty of rags and a catch basin, I should be fine.
oh yeah, so far the new look of CL is very appealing.
steviej
When I saw the location, my daytime job popped into my head. I can get these little basins from the hospital that will fit right under the oil filter and catch 99% of what comes out. They are slightly curved on one side and straight on the other. They are used to catch something else.....similar to the result of a hard night's drinking....but alas....I digress.
This is a very poor design, especially with a filter that has an anti-back flow valve. Plenty of rags and a catch basin, I should be fine.
oh yeah, so far the new look of CL is very appealing.
steviej
#5
Lexus Connoisseur
Re: Never mind, I found it.
Originally posted by steviej
I can't believe the people who design engines. They should be made to change the oil in motors with filters in this placement.
It is under the front manifold up high on the block. Toy/Lex filters are dark grey/black and it blended right in with the engine block.
The sad part is it is angled down. No matter what, it is gonna pee out oil all over the place. I know it's got a valve, but it is still gonna leak. I wouldn't mind so much but there is stuff under it, electrical connections, motor mounts, crossmemebers, etc. All the more to get oil on them and collect dirt and crap.
So I'll pack it off with lots of rags. My friend's Saab is really nice.
The oil filter is straight up and down so it holds the oil like a cup. Never a drop is spilled.
Sorry for venting, but sometimes I wonder where the brains are on the people that design these things.
later dudes and dudettes.
steviej
I can't believe the people who design engines. They should be made to change the oil in motors with filters in this placement.
It is under the front manifold up high on the block. Toy/Lex filters are dark grey/black and it blended right in with the engine block.
The sad part is it is angled down. No matter what, it is gonna pee out oil all over the place. I know it's got a valve, but it is still gonna leak. I wouldn't mind so much but there is stuff under it, electrical connections, motor mounts, crossmemebers, etc. All the more to get oil on them and collect dirt and crap.
So I'll pack it off with lots of rags. My friend's Saab is really nice.
The oil filter is straight up and down so it holds the oil like a cup. Never a drop is spilled.
Sorry for venting, but sometimes I wonder where the brains are on the people that design these things.
later dudes and dudettes.
steviej
#6
I take it back!!!
Every day i drive the lexus, I am more and more impressed.
I would like to say that Toy/Lex engineers are exempt from my previous complaint of mechanical/design engineers. If you have a 2002 ES and you go to change your oil, you will notice that Toy/Lex has designed a piece of metal that is attached to the engine block just below the oil filter (can't see it until the filter is removed). This piece of metal acts as a funnel and directs the oil into a fine stream that goes straight down. If you are on a level surface, the oil will spill off this bracket directly into your waste oil catch pan. NO MESS and no oil on the floor.
Now I am really impressed.
Life is good.
steviej.
PS I know not if previous models of the 1MZ-FE have this.
I would like to say that Toy/Lex engineers are exempt from my previous complaint of mechanical/design engineers. If you have a 2002 ES and you go to change your oil, you will notice that Toy/Lex has designed a piece of metal that is attached to the engine block just below the oil filter (can't see it until the filter is removed). This piece of metal acts as a funnel and directs the oil into a fine stream that goes straight down. If you are on a level surface, the oil will spill off this bracket directly into your waste oil catch pan. NO MESS and no oil on the floor.
Now I am really impressed.
Life is good.
steviej.
PS I know not if previous models of the 1MZ-FE have this.
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#8
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#10
Lexus Fanatic
^ Good to hear you changed the oil yourself on the ES. The process gets much easier the next time around, and you also save yourself some $$$ as opposed to going to the dealership (I get a kick out of it every time I walk into a dealership to order a part and find people in the waiting lounge waiting to get their oil changed)
BTW, how are the new headlights?
BTW, how are the new headlights?
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