A8l w12 ceja 6.3
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Absolutely not lol! Hell no. The only one I would want to actually drive is the W222 AMG version but the only one I would dare own in the W140 generation V12. They are fun but RWD only and parts are truly insane to buy.
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Nothing really special about Amsoil compared to other "real" synthetics - if you can find them, that is (you're kind of spoiled in the US). Ravenol makes all kinds of oils - from the cheapest possible to ridiculous (their race series and any USVO with low noack) - the price reflects it.
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Nothing really special about Amsoil compared to other "real" synthetics - if you can find them, that is (you're kind of spoiled in the US). Ravenol makes all kinds of oils - from the cheapest possible to ridiculous (their race series and any USVO with low noack) - the price reflects it.
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I mean that's really good stuff and WAY above your needed spec lol! Some of our cars require semi-exotic oil and to just meet them it gets pricy
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Over here it's ~17.5eur/qt. Ravenol's REP ("euro" 5w30, so closer to ams's 5w40) is ~20. Ravenol's SFE ("5w20" that's more like an xw30) is 15. Redline is unobtainium, same for Maxima & the other usual suspects when it comes to high performance oils. Don't get me started on suspension fluids, particularly shock oil (i.e. stupid high VI and short service intervals due to the amount of VIIs).
Anyways, for what it is, ams is neither expensive, nor special. Not saying that it's bad - far from it (at least the signature series, as they do make some "run of the mill" oils).
Anyways, for what it is, ams is neither expensive, nor special. Not saying that it's bad - far from it (at least the signature series, as they do make some "run of the mill" oils).
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Over here it's ~17.5eur/qt. Ravenol's REP ("euro" 5w30, so closer to ams's 5w40) is ~20. Ravenol's SFE ("5w20" that's more like an xw30) is 15. Redline is unobtainium, same for Maxima & the other usual suspects when it comes to high performance oils. Don't get me started on suspension fluids, particularly shock oil (i.e. stupid high VI and short service intervals due to the amount of VIIs).
Anyways, for what it is, ams is neither expensive, nor special. Not saying that it's bad - far from it (at least the signature series, as they do make some "run of the mill" oils).
Anyways, for what it is, ams is neither expensive, nor special. Not saying that it's bad - far from it (at least the signature series, as they do make some "run of the mill" oils).
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The typical UOA posted on bitog/etc tells you just about nothing by itself. If you do it every time with the same oil, you _might_ be tipped off to something.
10k definitely sounds fine for a sienna in cali weather that doesn't really do short trips. YMMV but I definitely wouldn't bother worrying about the SS 0w20. I'd use the 5w20 as the zero is a bit of a waste when you don't see snow (and even then)
10k definitely sounds fine for a sienna in cali weather that doesn't really do short trips. YMMV but I definitely wouldn't bother worrying about the SS 0w20. I'd use the 5w20 as the zero is a bit of a waste when you don't see snow (and even then)
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The typical UOA posted on bitog/etc tells you just about nothing by itself. If you do it every time with the same oil, you _might_ be tipped off to something.
10k definitely sounds fine for a sienna in cali weather that doesn't really do short trips. YMMV but I definitely wouldn't bother worrying about the SS 0w20. I'd use the 5w20 as the zero is a bit of a waste when you don't see snow (and even then)
10k definitely sounds fine for a sienna in cali weather that doesn't really do short trips. YMMV but I definitely wouldn't bother worrying about the SS 0w20. I'd use the 5w20 as the zero is a bit of a waste when you don't see snow (and even then)
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Get ready to spend money.
She will be expecting fine dining and fancy gifts, nothing but the best!
Spoiler
Thay've lost their mind. lol
What you think, it's worth the money?
Maybe it is I don't know but I'd have to hear some amazing testimony. lol
That oil better be changed 5k or less like clockwork or I don't want it.
Don't care what majic oil they claim to use, that car is a hard pass for me at that point. lol
Walking away...
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Funny enough my oil was supposed to be anywhere from $11.50-16 a quart and I need 12 of them....turns out that the parts store oil bundle applies to ANY synthetic so I paid $5 a quart and for a free mobile one filter with every 5 I bought. I ended up buying 15 so I got 3 free filters, one for each Toyota/Lexus since they don't carry the filters for my Germans
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Well you have a high dollar cat so she is gonna be high maintenance. lol
Get ready to spend money.
She will be expecting fine dining and fancy gifts, nothing but the best!
What the heck, 17.5 euro per quart.
Thay've lost their mind. lol
What you think, it's worth the money?
Maybe it is I don't know but I'd have to hear some amazing testimony. lol
I would never buy a car if I looked at the Carfax and saw 10k mile oil changes.
That oil better be changed 5k or less like clockwork or I don't want it.
Don't care what majic oil they claim to use, that car is a hard pass for me at that point. lol
Walking away...
Get ready to spend money.
She will be expecting fine dining and fancy gifts, nothing but the best!
Spoiler
What the heck, 17.5 euro per quart.
Thay've lost their mind. lol
What you think, it's worth the money?
Maybe it is I don't know but I'd have to hear some amazing testimony. lol
I would never buy a car if I looked at the Carfax and saw 10k mile oil changes.
That oil better be changed 5k or less like clockwork or I don't want it.
Don't care what majic oil they claim to use, that car is a hard pass for me at that point. lol
Walking away...
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Nope, this is just the reality over here. (pretty much across the EU, and not only). That's how much top-end oils go for. As for whether it's worth it - do your own research and make up your own mind. Actual synthetics ("full") can be a very good insurance policy, at the very least. Throw in a turbo DI lean burning German petrol engine and you'd better not skimp.
10k OCIs are quite fine, assuming that the car is driven properly. Lots of short trips (i.e. cycling) / idling / city / cold weather = reduce. Depends on the oil, the engine, use, environment, just about everything. 5K is definitely safe for "I'll run it with almost whatever" (i.e. including stuff that's worse than the OEM Toyota oil, which isn't very special... just consistently good in the "right" areas when not taxed).
Yeah... everything's better with it. Except for OCIs and the roads looking like a set for a medieval dystopia movie... amongst other things
10k OCIs are quite fine, assuming that the car is driven properly. Lots of short trips (i.e. cycling) / idling / city / cold weather = reduce. Depends on the oil, the engine, use, environment, just about everything. 5K is definitely safe for "I'll run it with almost whatever" (i.e. including stuff that's worse than the OEM Toyota oil, which isn't very special... just consistently good in the "right" areas when not taxed).
Yeah... everything's better with it. Except for OCIs and the roads looking like a set for a medieval dystopia movie... amongst other things
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The quick lube place showed me the sludge on my dipstick and upsold me a "degunking service" which I gladly paid for.
Not proud of it but I get a laugh thinking about it in hindsight. lol
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Holy crap. Damn. I thought my going to 8k once was really bad behavior lol!