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Old Dec 2, 2022 | 03:41 PM
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It just shows what an amazing company Tesla is. The potential savings to trucking companies not having to fuel and maintain fleets of trucks, which means savings for the consumer. I'm all in!
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It just shows what an amazing company Tesla is. The potential savings to trucking companies not having to fuel and maintain fleets of trucks, which means savings for the consumer. I'm all in!
I think that would mean more profits for the trucking companies. People arent looking to save consumers anything cost of everything is going up.
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I think that would mean more profits for the trucking companies. People arent looking to save consumers anything cost of everything is going up.
Fair enough. Can't argue against greed
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Originally Posted by patgilm
On the Model S it has happened and it’s $18k-$20k to replace.
​​​​​​ One of my son's friends bought a 2016 Model S with nearly 150k on it for $45k and replaced the battery pack for $7500. Basically a $90k car for under $60k. The car now has another 200k of life. Clean title BTW
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Originally Posted by B Dot
I think that would mean more profits for the trucking companies. People arent looking to save consumers anything cost of everything is going up.
competition means it isn't always just more profits when costs go down. we surely don't want trucking costs to keep going up so it's a win if it goes down, plus massive amounts less pollution.

and cost of everything going up has many factors, making up for pandemic losses and economic surge 'after' the worst of it, with lagging supplies, increased wages as labor force shrinks (tons of people took early retirement or chose under employment), vast government printing of money and giving it away increasing national debt and interest payments, fed trying to 'tame' inflation by raising rates, etc, etc.

to get prices to go down or at least go up less, we will need increased supply, less demand, less government debt (ha!). increased competition, lower supply chain costs - of which this tesla semi could help with.
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Originally Posted by B Dot
I think that would mean more profits for the trucking companies. People arent looking to save consumers anything cost of everything is going up.
You are right. The profits will go to the trucking company. The cost to go green is very expensive. People will eventually end up paying more for EVs (already are) and to charge them as well compared to gas. Add mass means you add cost.
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to get prices to go down or at least go up less, we will need increased supply, less demand, less government debt (ha!). increased competition, lower supply chain costs - of which this tesla semi could help with.
‘Just jack up the interest rates to 10% +. Prices fall
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You are right. The profits will go to the trucking company. The cost to go green is very expensive. People will eventually end up paying more for EVs (already are) and to charge them as well compared to gas. Add mass means you add cost.


‘Just jack up the interest rates to 10% +. Prices fall
I'm glad you have such an optimistic view of new and better technology replacing old 100 years plus inefficient dirty burning diesel engines. I bet you were one of those who thought the iPhone was a bad idea before realizing it was actually a good product. Well, you can keep your diesel trucks and flip phones.

I'm just thankful you don't make decisions on new tech, otherwise we would still be catching iron horses burning coal

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change is hard for most.

and one thing steve jobs was 100% right on, for an innovative company, market research is a complete waste of time, because consumers typically can only think in terms of small incremental improvements of what they already have.

steve jobs' "1000 sounds in my pocket" which lead to ipod, and later to an iphone driven by a touch screen changed everything.
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Tesla Semi cuts energy cost 50-70%, and drastically reduces the need for brake work which is a huge expense on big rigs. Not to mention other fluid changes go away. Truckers will love driving it.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
change is hard for most.

and one thing steve jobs was 100% right on, for an innovative company, market research is a complete waste of time, because consumers typically can only think in terms of small incremental improvements of what they already have.

steve jobs' "1000 sounds in my pocket" which lead to ipod, and later to an iphone driven by a touch screen changed everything.
You can say that again 🤣. It's sounds like my Mom, who wouldn't give up her Pentium 33 MHz running Windows 95 for a new computer because she wanted to continue using a 16 bit crappy word program that wouldn't run on a modern PC. She drove us nuts until we swapped her old computer back. I'm just glad there are smart people who continually innovate and push out new tech to make our lives better. Well most of the time

Not an Apple consumer, but I thank Steve Jobs for many of Apple's innovative ideas and products

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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Tesla Semi cuts energy cost 50-70%, and drastically reduces the need for brake work which is a huge expense on big rigs. Not to mention other fluid changes go away. Truckers will love driving it.
What's not to like about that? I guess if you like 100 year old diesel engines that get 12 mpg, have 18 gears you have to shift, and pollute you're neighborhood. Oh well...

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
What's not to like about that? I guess if you like 100 year old diesel engines that get 12 mpg, have 18 gears you have to shift, and pollute you're neighborhood. Oh well...
You wish, loaded they get half that. Going up a moderate incline it drops to about 3mpg and you get none of it back going back down unlike the Tesla Semi. Eventually truck stops are going to be so much cleaner I feel bad for people breathing in diesel particulates all the time.
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
You wish, loaded they get half that. Going up a moderate incline it drops to about 3mpg and you get none of it back going back down unlike the Tesla Semi. Eventually truck stops are going to be so much cleaner I feel bad for people breathing in diesel particulates all the time.
There are people who like diesel particles in their lungs, 2 mpg's, and 90 percent heat waste energy. So shut your trap

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
​​​​​​ One of my son's friends bought a 2016 Model S with nearly 150k on it for $45k and replaced the battery pack for $7500. Basically a $90k car for under $60k. The car now has another 200k of life. Clean title BTW
Yeah you are quoting the cheapest aftermarket battery out there with 210 miles of range. If you want more it’s going to cost you over $10k and if you want a new battery from Tesla it’s going to be around $18k-$20k. Another reputable aftermarket vendor is around the same price but can give you a core discount if your battery isn’t dead but if it is dead, you’re looking at close to Tesla prices.

Here is a decent link to a discussion:

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...rth-it.278688/
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Yeah you are quoting the cheapest aftermarket battery out there with 210 miles of range. If you want more it’s going to cost you over $10k and if you want a new battery from Tesla it’s going to be around $18k-$20k. Another reputable aftermarket vendor is around the same price but can give you a core discount if your battery isn’t dead but if it is dead, you’re looking at close to Tesla prices.

Here is a decent link to a discussion:

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...rth-it.278688/
Interesting. I never asked him details. I'll ask him next time I see him more details on the battery he bought



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