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Old 09-23-22, 06:34 PM
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i can cook a steak in the microwave faster than the grill, that must mean its better
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Old 09-23-22, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
The 6.2 has some serious issues that can result in the engine blowing up lol! It's not as good as you think....
Not talking about reliability at all, just pure satisfaction with the sound and feel. Like I said, I've been gone for LA for 8 years and can still hear that 6.2 crackle and pop because they were everywhere and we were always walking, and because they sounded that good.

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Oh come on now, it's close as long as you are going faster than the 430 normally likes to go and it's quieter lol!
UR just isn't as smooth as UZ. It's not NOT smooth. 430 feels oomphier than 460 down low bc of lower torque peak. My UR 5.7 is very smooth but the 4.3 UZ is just ridiculous. Also 460 has too many gears. 430 is a more satisfying powertrain IMO, and it's a much older design. Like we say, newer isn't always better.
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Old 09-23-22, 07:21 PM
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It' a rumor but the reason it's hard to locate the way this new C63 sounds is bc AMG has an embargo because "it's not ready yet" or something like that.


If you’re hoping for the exhaust note you won’t get it in this video. According to another Youtuber, AMG has an embargo on showcasing the sound of the C63 because “they’re not fully ready yet.”
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Old 09-23-22, 08:32 PM
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Most new performance cars sound like crap and have dumb rev limiters.

Its bad enough ICE is going away but they are ruining the last ones remaining.

The new SL63 I drove was much quieter than LC500 and sounds much tamer than the old AMGs
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Old 09-25-22, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
i'm not too concerned with the engine itself as far as being tuned 'within inches of its life' and all that... the inline 4 is an inherently very strong, stout design that's basically been optimized to perfection at this point

all the hybrid stuff worries me much more in terms of out of warranty bills

definitely not a car to own out of warranty.
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Old 09-25-22, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
It’s more than 700lbs. heavier than the 6.2L V8 cars, that’s my point. Those cars were smaller in general anyways (which was a customer issue) so it’s not really a good direct comparison. The last-gen is a better comparison point.

CAFE did not cause Mercedes to go this design direction. That’s just not true. Mercedes could’ve easily maintained their old direction and sailed through CAFE standards. Mercedes CO2 restrictions in Europe have continued to dictate their decisions right down to them including the PHEV capability despite it only having an 8 mile range. U.S. salespeople are being directed to omit the plug-in capability from their sales pitch when they go through training.
Again, 9.0:1 comp doesn't scream "efficient"t to me in any way, but I guess that's the WLTP for you (feathering the throttle).
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Old 09-25-22, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lwerewolf
Again, 9.0:1 comp doesn't scream "efficient"t to me in any way, but I guess that's the WLTP for you (feathering the throttle).
The only reason this lost the V8 is for fuel economy. CAFE or international.
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Old 09-25-22, 09:44 PM
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Great exterior styling.
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Old 09-26-22, 05:43 AM
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Have to love the performance compact sedan that weighs just 150lbs less than a long-wheelbase S580. And 900lbs more than its most direct competitor.
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Old 09-26-22, 08:18 AM
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What is the curb weight and has anyone seen any MPG numbers?

Don't forget you get to plug this car in, too. Someone pointed out the MB salespeople are literally supposed to omit that when trying to sell these.
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Old 09-26-22, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
What is the curb weight and has anyone seen any MPG numbers?

Don't forget you get to plug this car in, too. Someone pointed out the MB salespeople are literally supposed to omit that when trying to sell these.
4654 lbs, no EPA numbers yet. Mercedes is concerned about their WLTP rating regardless. EPA will likely be less favorable.
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Old 09-26-22, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
4654 lbs, no EPA numbers yet.\.
So this "compact" super sports sedan weighs as much as a W140. Hmm.
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Old 09-26-22, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
What is the curb weight and has anyone seen any MPG numbers?

Don't forget you get to plug this car in, too. Someone pointed out the MB salespeople are literally supposed to omit that when trying to sell these.
Batteries...electric motors.... all increase mass...and make it more costly. The green push will always be more expensive and this is slower than the previous model.
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AJT123, we get it, you hate it.
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Old 09-26-22, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
AJT123, we get it, you hate it.
it is crazy heavy. No?
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