The wagon is the pick. Toyota used to make good wagons.
Followed by Sports and Sedan Crown's. Crossover is a bit ugly.
Thanks for posting all these photos
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
WHY does this have a tiny trunk lid and not a hatch?
so this ^^ was the post that confused me, because it doesn't even include the car that's the subject of this thread. but now with motorola's post, i see these are the other models in the new Crown "line-up".
the bottom sedan appears to be an actual rwd-based evolution of previous Crown sedans, and it looks pretty great imo.
pretty much. while the interior looks plasticky, i like the overall design/layout and mix of screens and buttons/controls.
you like the look of this thing?
not sure what you're referring to... the not-a-hatch sedan thing for the u.s. is hideous, the traditional crown sedan seems pretty great to me.
very helpful, thanks.
could be, but not much concern in u.s. at least since they're only bringing frankenstein here.
i didn't read where the whole crown sub-brand might be sold... anywhere other than japan? could be a 'proving ground' for new models which might become toyota or lexus models, just like this new Crown 'thing' will be the toyota crown in the u.s.
Responding to the bold
Likely to do with making the interior as spacious as possible. Look at this utopian experience
The look on those peoples faces says I'm trying to keep it together but desperately want out of this car.
That is the look of people who are living in a utopian society....where there is very little carbon in the atmosphere. The look that confirms Akio is right.
That is the look of people who are living in a utopian society....where there is very little carbon in the atmosphere. The look that confirms Akio is right.
I would encourage Toyota to make future iterations more sedan/notchback like - just like The Beast - which is 10" taller, yet still looks like a sedan.
That is the look of people who are living in a utopian society....where there is very little carbon in the atmosphere. The look that confirms Akio is right.
Or it could just be the look of the models that the PR agency hired on behalf of Toyota and that you are reading too much into an image.
I'm wrong even though you literally agreed with every word I wrote, okay lol.
The problem is that Lexus has very little to separate it from Toyota as a luxury brand given its current product lineup since they all share the same platforms and powertrains. Now you have Crown, which is effectively the same thing. Ironically, the Crown sedan is an ICE version of the Mirai, which is the remains of the cancelled 5th gen GS. So it is literally a Lexus wearing a Crown badge.
Check the new Mirai's chassis, then check the new Crown.
McPherson at the front and no transmission/driveshaft/hydrogen/battery/whatever tunnel. It's not the same chassis.
Did you read the thread lol. The Crown Sedan and Crown Cross are two completely different cars and sit on different platforms. The Crown Sedan, which I was referring to, is quite literally an ICE-converted Mirai and sits on the same GA-L platform.
Crown is not one model now, it's an entirely new luxury sub-brand of 4 different models. Hence why the thread was split...
but now with motorola's post, i see these are the other models in the new Crown "line-up". 
while the interior looks plasticky, i like the overall design/layout and mix of screens and buttons/controls.
