Your guess with absolutely zero experience to back it up lol

I don't think anybody is suggesting someone who does a lot of long distance towing would buy one of these...you're just looking for any reason to discredit it.

California charges me $150 extra a year in tax to offset the fuel tax they've lost (thats how much each car pays on an average basis for annual fuel tax at state level). Big scary tax man seems pathetically tiny doesn't it? Thats 2 fill-ups of my minivan by the way. Electricity prices are the highest in so-cal than anywhere else in the nation...sad. Lucky I pay $0 as I have solar like many people in so-cal have because it takes very little panels to power your house and car for a year due to nice sunny weather year round. In other parts of the nation, electricity prices are far cheaper so they don't need solar to benefit from an EV. For the average daily commuter car, EVs are probably better.

If I were filthy rich, I'd own a Ferrari just because.

New people in government who don’t hate fossil fuels. That’s about all I’m gonna (and am allowed) to say. They won’t dramatically decrease so quickly like they dramatically increased unfortunately, but yes we will have cheap fuel again.

But sure, so $20 for this one too? Remember we already have that wager about if there will still be (probably 5.3) V8s produced by GM in 7 and a half years.

Use case is all important. If you're towing closer to max capacity day in day out over long ranges then the obvious answer is get a different truck. If you tow smaller loads or tow less frequently or over shorter distances then this one works as well as any truck and it still has its other advantages.

And let's not forget that with a 10,000lb towing capacity, the F150 Lightning will tow things your LX570 can't.

I just don’t buy these things lasting all day with anything other than a light, light load, can’t agree with the bolded. Even moderate work will affect range pretty badly in less than ideal temps. Remember all of the USA doesn’t have SoCal weather.

IDC that it tows more than my truck, it should. It’s an actual pickup not an SUV. This has nothing to do with any Lexus LX

My uncle would be the perfect customer for this truck based on his needs and what ya'll are saying.

Already has a Raptor but keeps talking he is ordering a Hummer EV and can't wait.
He does mostly in town driving and has the utility of a truck when needed, plus it keeps miles off his Lambo. lol

Right, a filthy rich guy sounds like lol. More power to him.

The other thing here is that per the article in the OP, the range when the trailer was added adjusted from 85 to 54. That's a 36.47% decrease - a smaller reduction than might have been expected.

These are just rolling out to the first customers, so data is limited, but we already know the truck is quicker and more powerful than the original specs, and it's quite possible that the real-world towing range will similarly be greater than the initial estimate.

The people in government have nothing to do with this ramp up in fuel prices. The cheap fuel we had was because there was a dramatic drop off in demand because of COVID, that was never sustainable.

Remember high fuel prices are a worldwide phenomenon, not limited to just here. In fact our gas prices are some of the lowest in the world outside of places that are huge producers of worldwide petroleum.

Sure

LOL I edited my post for mistakes in grammar lol and bad word structure. You already know my position I don't hide my position I take from anyone

Can it actually or just in theory? What about 50% over max like SO many trucks tend to get exposed to?

Raptor with stage 1 wants to talk....

I was thinking the same. It's actually a smaller reduction in range than I would have guessed.

I could take my Tundra down to 85 miles of range left (a bit under a quarter of a tank of gas), then hitch up my travel trailer and see how many miles I could get. I see about a 30% reduction in range (or conversely, a 30% increase in fuel consumption) when I tow my trailer. So in that case, I'd assume I'd get about 59 miles of range. Obviously I could fill up quickly, and I never let it get that low when towing, but the point is the reduction in range shown here by this Lightning doesn't seem bad to me. It wouldn't work for me, and it should be noted that travel trailers are among the worst to pull. The frontal area pushing through the wind can be more of a detriment to fuel mileage than the weight of the trailer itself. Towing a flatbed, boat or utility trailer takes a much smaller hit on range/mileage. My experience, anyway. YMMV (literally).

Flat surface, take that into account. I'm sure the weather temp was ideal also.

Not to go OT but does your Tundra have a very very pessimistic low fuel light? I can drive for a day or two with the light on (just piddly errands).

I really don't want to get into this but your whole "Duh the Lightning isn't made for off roading, it's not the right platform" (paraphrasing) was NOT there originally. You were making it look like you were pointing that out before I actually made the point.

Yeah, but it's still about a 30% reduction in range on the Tundra when I'm towing, whether it's on flat or on hills.

And yes, the entire gas gauge is an alarmist. I've never had one be so far off. When the gas light comes on, I have about 10 gallons left. When the range gets down to zero, I still have 8 gallons. I don't often run it that low because it's a lot to refill at once.