LOL, i feel like this car would need major engine work every 5K miles.

Perfect example of why I would just go Full EV at this point. This is incredibly dumb.

What would be hilarious is if there is no real world performance gain over the previous generation with a simple V8 and RWD. But you know....gas savings.

 

Exactly, and I wonder if thats actually the point, to make enthusiasts excited about going EV.

 

id rather have a V8 with a 100 less hp than this, dont care if its slower

 

Any day of the week!

 

They’re also known to complain regardless. W204 people complained about the turbos and sound of the W205, E90 people complained about the feel and sound of the F80 M3, etc.

I agree this is extremely risky of MB. They took out a lot of the initial appeal from a powertrain standpoint. I think it’s particularly risky because they won’t have an electric C-class equivalent for a few years.

 

This. This is why not. It's absurd to remove the emotion out of an AMG.

 

there will be other benefits to this c63. it will no doubt be lighter and better balanced. years ago I remember driving an IS350 and IS-F back to back on a lexus autocross. the IS-F with the big V8 may have had more grunt off the line, but the IS350 was MUCH MUCH more enjoyable and fun and predictable to drive, being so much less front end heavy.

anyway the e 63 will still have the v8 and looks awesome.



https://www.evo.co.uk/mercedes/e63-a...-sign-off-w213

 

and yet Europe has had hot hatches with screaming turbo 4s for decades with tons of 'emotion'.

 

Yet people who love the ISF still hold onto them and would never replace them with an IS350, and Lexus just brought back the V8 in the IS to much fanfare. A C63 is not about handling, its about the big raucus incredible sounding powerplant.

You shpuld check out forums and YouTube etc surrounding this vehicle. Their fan base is not excited about it at all. People are even saying they would rather buy an IS500! I kid you not.

Which is fine for those hot hatches, this is a Mercedes C63 AMG. Just because soemthing else is successful doesn't mean this was a smart move for Mercedes...this vehicle just flat will not appeal to their core demographic for that vehicle. They will sell them sure, but not to the customers they have.

I'm not sure what Mercedes is doing here. They recognized even with the pause in V8 production for instance they needed to still offer the V8 in the S Class, yet here there is no V8 when they could do one if they wanted to...

 

not surprised. change is hard.

i'm sure there's tons of pre-c8 corvette owners who were mad and will 'never' get a mid-engine corvette because it's not a 'true' corvette, and other nonsense.

pretty obvious, they're winding down v8's starting at the low end... the s-class will probably have it the longest until they decide to just keep a hybrid turbo v6 until ICE is gone entirely as is their announced plan.

 

Corvette is a still a V8. If Chevrolet went 4 cylinder plug-in..... terrible If Chevy went V8 plug in.... people would not complain

 

And sometimes, change is not necessary, and is taken in too big a leap all at once. MB would have been way better off with a TTV6 in the C63 this generation. Change is not always for the better.

Its not nonsense. I would probably not buy a mid engined Corvette actually, I agree that it doesnt really feel or look like a Corvette and I would prefer a front engined C7, even though I have never had a Corvette. Cars have a pedigree and a history and an identity and sometimes discarding that is a bad idea. Nothing against the C8 which is an incredible car and an incredible value really, but it doesn't appeal to me.

There are rightfully so a lot of mid engined enthuisasts out there, so lots to be excited about with the C8 despite the loss of some of the car's identity. Not a lot of 4 cyl enthusiasts, so not a lot to be excited about here.

Thats the point, this isn't the "low end". Mercedes, BMW, don't look at things that way, at least they haven't historically. People buy a C63 or an M3 or M4 as a destination, not because they can't afford an E or 5. MB has said this is the last generation ICE S Class and the next one will be EV. The S Class also has not always been a V8, the V8 is not part of its historical identity. It IS a part of the identity of the C63. I would buy an S Class without a V8 way before I would buy a full blooded AMG without one.

I think you will find enthusiasts just abandon the C63, which is a shame because it was a car that had a pretty strong following.

 

Corvette is still a Vette. I don't think the engine moving to the back is an issue. Still a V8, naturally aspirated V8. 2 seater. (very first Corvette had an I6 option)

 

There are a lot of people who feel like the mid engined layout changes the whole identity of the car and I can't really disagree. Its kind of like making a 2 seat sports car a 2+2...

 

On the contrary, I think this new 4-pot C63 will be the best-selling C63 ever, solely because it won't have as many emissions taxes slapped on it as the old V8 in Europe, China, and other markets that have such taxes, therefore making it significantly cheaper to buy and run in most international markets. Brand prestige and badge merit will always trump "emotion" so this could have a two-cylinder motorbike engine and people would still buy it.