What the GS could have been
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Toyota will dominate with the solid state batteries for their hybrids. That is where they will debut. The full BEV solid states will be far too expensive to really matter.
Toyota has the most electrified cars. A Mirai is an EV. Not sure I agree Toyota should be adding in hybrids when they count all EVs.
Toyota has the most electrified cars. A Mirai is an EV. Not sure I agree Toyota should be adding in hybrids when they count all EVs.
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Toyota loses a pile of money on every Mirai made and the car is probably the most government subsidized vehicle in history. Tesla makes $10,000 per car sold and has no subsidies. Toyota lost huge betting on hydrogen.
So far this year Toyota has sold 700 Mirai's in the United States the car is a colossal dud.
So far this year Toyota has sold 700 Mirai's in the United States the car is a colossal dud.
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Giving a hybrid a SSB literally defeats the entire point of a SSB and provides no real incentive over a standard hybrid.
If Toyota actually did this, would be pretty sad.
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Sure it does. Enables Toyota to say it launched SSB in an EV. It's too bad hybrids really aren't real EVs (anything with an IcE isn't) and they aren't subjecting the SSB to the same rigorous conditions as a pure BEV would experience.
If Toyota actually did this, would be pretty sad.
If Toyota actually did this, would be pretty sad.
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I still don't understand the logic behind taking the GS and turning it into some low-volume science project like the Mirai. The Mirai in its first year, with $20K in incentives, sold <100 units more than the GS in its final year of production.
*probably never did the calculations
Toyota takes great pride in being leaders in a particular field they can't accept being seen as following the industry in EVs. Not that buyers actually care it's a corporate culture thing.
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