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Old Mar 10, 2022 | 07:49 AM
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And who is this "we"?
Yeah...who is this WE person...
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Old Mar 10, 2022 | 10:01 AM
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Inventory Is not going back to pre war levels either.

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My post isn't junk. We do NOT see any Mach-E vehicles on the road up here. Maybe they are in demand by the granola nuts crowd in California and the west coast, but not up here. The front of the Mach-E looks hideous, but the rear doesn't look bad. I wouldn't buy that car if you gave it to me for free or a million dollars.
Sir, It's West Coast Best Coast I'll enjoy my granola, you enjoy your Smaht Pahk
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Old Mar 10, 2022 | 10:26 AM
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Sir, It's West Coast Best Coast I'll enjoy my granola, you enjoy your Smaht Pahk
LOL I didn't pay attention to the rest of what he wrote. You forgot to throw the "we drink overpriced Soy Latte" insult while you were at it. Now pass me my bowl of Granola (vegan), get me my cup of Blue Bottle while I relax on the beach and go away please.

BTW, if someone paid me $1M to drive a Pinto, I'd take that bad boy in a second!

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Old Mar 10, 2022 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey689
you enjoy your Smaht Pahk
The Smaht Pack that got recahlled Was not so Smaht.
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Old Mar 10, 2022 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
BTW, if someone paid me $1M to drive a Pinto, I'd take that bad in a second!
Ford paid put lots of $1M figures to people who drove Pintos. Unfortunately, not all of them were alive to collect it.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Ford paid put lots of $1M figures to people who drove Pintos. Unfortunately, not all of them were alive to collect it.
My folks had a pinto. The paint on the hood came right off during the first winter.
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Old Mar 10, 2022 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
My folks had a pinto. The paint on the hood came right off during the first winter.
Many of the notorious body/paint problems Ford had in the 1970s was because the company wouldn't use Galvanized steel, and, in some cases, even left some things underneath bare metal, with no coatings or paint at all. To its credit, however, Ford was also the first company (that I know of) to shift to clearcoat paint in the 1980s, which IMO atoned for several earlier sins in the painting (or non-painting) process.
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Ford paid put lots of $1M figures to people who drove Pintos. Unfortunately, not all of them were alive to collect it.
I never said I would drive it
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Many of the notorious body/paint problems Ford had in the 1970s was because the company wouldn't use Galvanized steel, and, in some cases, even left some things underneath bare metal, with no coatings or paint at all. To its credit, however, Ford was also the first company (that I know of) to shift to clearcoat paint in the 1980s, which IMO atoned for several earlier sins in the painting (or non-painting) process.
American cars were just very cheaply built in the 1970s and 1980s.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
American cars were just very cheaply built in the 1970s and 1980s.

Part of that was because the companies had to spend so much on downsizing and developing new emissions and gas-mileage systems for their vehicles that it left less money to spend on quality control. Chrysler had already shown serious cheapening in the late 60s.

Although I am a firm supporter of the UAW for several reasons, I will admit that the union was so strong in those days that it also contributed to the problem of poorly-made vehicles by protecting the jobs of drunken/stoned/careless/indifferent workers who had no sense of pride in their work and/or sometimes deliberately sabotaged the vehicles if they had a beef with the company. Some of those Bozos should have been fired, and weren't. Management also had a lot of problems with disorganization and lack of coordination. Unlike many here in CL today, I'm old enough to vividly remember the way those vehicles, particularly from Chrysler, came off the assembly lines. It was ridiculous.

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Getting back on topic, We'll see if GM cutting down on inventory levels means more people will be ordering from the factory and getting exactly (or close to) what they want....if they have enough patience to wait. I've seen that process take 4-5 months or more, just from experience.

In fact, only fairly recently have I actually started special-ordering again, because vehicles are generally assembled better now than in the past. In the past, I found it was often better to buy from something right three, on the lot, that you could thoroughly inspect and test drive before buying. Lots of vehicles came from the factory way out of alignment, shimmies in the wheels/tires/ steering, out-of-round tires, full of rattles/squeaks, and some things that plain didn't work. Probably the worst examples I ever saw were the 1984 Pontiac Fiero and the 1980 GM X-Body compacts.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Getting back on topic, We'll see if GM cutting down on inventory levels means more people will be ordering from the factory and getting exactly (or close to) what they want....if they have enough patience to wait. I've seen that process take 4-5 months or more, just from experience.
It seems like this will be the case. The Tesla direct model works in part because there are very few options. Color, wheels, interior and range/performance.
While most car makers have consolidated choices into option groups, there are still far more ways to build them. This leads to complicated BOMS, procurement, build sheets, etc.
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