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Old Jan 14, 2022 | 03:41 PM
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Och, on this i'm with you that much automotive design has gone off the rails now, from the new 9000lb hummer, to some awful bmw designs, to truck front ends high enough to be prison guardiing towers, all because it feeds the egos of those that buy them. i mean WHY does the front of this need to be so high?

I can’t believe this thing is on the road
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Old Jan 14, 2022 | 03:57 PM
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I can’t believe this thing is on the road
Look at the size of that tiny windshield compared to the outrageous grille. The compensator meme is a gift that keeps giving, lol.
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Old Jan 14, 2022 | 05:37 PM
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Yeah Mike, sometimes you completely miss the point, lol.

I mean from the design standpoint, beauty standards have changed, and not just in auto design.

Good Lord. I bet parallel parking that thing is a challenge.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 02:37 AM
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Much is based on aesthetics of the buying generation. Most in these trends comes goes or is designed to an extreme to out do what people will buy into. That bigger is better mentality.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 08:07 AM
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I grew up seeing and liking things automobile wise when I was a kid growing up partly in rural New Jersey, and then when we moved to NYC I was wowed with different styles and designs, then we went to Venezuela and I saw unique things there in the auto market before growing up largely in Miami. It was actually in Chicago that I was living where I fell in love with the RX300. Yet I could never and still never get over all the vehicle designs I saw in Mexico that were good and practical that likely for safety reasons we are left with some odd designs, IMHO, here in United States.

However, had I not gone where I did and seen what I did, I might have grown up now with far differing opinions. I get people that I know that do not like the RX300's design nor my current CT200h. That's okay with me.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 09:47 AM
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I grew up seeing and liking things automobile wise when I was a kid growing up partly in rural New Jersey, and then when we moved to NYC I was wowed with different styles and designs, then we went to Venezuela and I saw unique things there in the auto market before growing up largely in Miami. It was actually in Chicago that I was living where I fell in love with the RX300. Yet I could never and still never get over all the vehicle designs I saw in Mexico that were good and practical that likely for safety reasons we are left with some odd designs, IMHO, here in United States.

However, had I not gone where I did and seen what I did, I might have grown up now with far differing opinions. I get people that I know that do not like the RX300's design nor my current CT200h. That's okay with me.
yes, design appeal is subjective, but i think that silverado design is UNSAFE. the driver's visibility is SEVERELY limited.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
yes, design appeal is subjective, but i think that silverado design is UNSAFE. the driver's visibility is SEVERELY limited.
It is true for most cars nowadays - they make them more "crashworthy", which results in higher beltlines with tiny greenhouses, giant pillars that obstruct view, tall dashes, and as a result you can't see out of them.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 11:32 AM
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Cost cutting, unions, inflation, greed, arrogance, incompetence, lack of passion, lack of imagination, just dont care....im sure there are more if I sleep on it.
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Originally Posted by Och

I would drive her home!
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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
yes, design appeal is subjective, but i think that silverado design is UNSAFE. the driver's visibility is SEVERELY limited.
Definitely agree with you. Over the summer I had the new Tahoe for 3 weeks, and while the grill/hood height is nowhere near as extreme as that Silverado HD, the new generation took a BIG step in that direction. Even at 6'4" I found it dramatically more difficult (compared to previous generation Tahoes, which I rent pretty much every year) to gauge where the front end was, because the nearest spot of road surface I could see was probably 15-20' in front of the bumper. I can't even imagine how bad it is with that monstrosity.
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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Definitely agree with you. Over the summer I had the new Tahoe for 3 weeks, and while the grill/hood height is nowhere near as extreme as that Silverado HD, the new generation took a BIG step in that direction. Even at 6'4" I found it dramatically more difficult (compared to previous generation Tahoes, which I rent pretty much every year) to gauge where the front end was, because the nearest spot of road surface I could see was probably 15-20' in front of the bumper. I can't even imagine how bad it is with that monstrosity.

Your truck doesn't have a forward-looking or 360 camera?....although I know that some GM camera-systems (like the one in my Encore GX) don't allow their operation at more than 6 MPH.
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Your truck doesn't have a forward-looking or 360 camera?....although I know that some GM camera-systems (like the one in my Encore GX) don't allow their operation at more than 6 MPH.
It did, but as I recall (this was 6+ months ago), you had to engage it manually and could only be used at very low speeds. The corner visibility in that Tahoe was so poor you really needed camera views during normal driving--at stoplights, going around corners, etc. Plus I can't condition myself to drive on the street staring at a screen rather than out the windshield.
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Old Jan 17, 2022 | 09:50 AM
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Plus I can't condition myself to drive on the street staring at a screen rather than out the windshield.
Oh definitely. That's why the GM cameras cut out at over 6 MPH.

And......just think.....if people were staring at the camera-screen while driving, they couldn't stare at their cell-phones instead.

(just kidding)
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Old Jan 18, 2022 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
yes, design appeal is subjective, but i think that silverado design is UNSAFE. the driver's visibility is SEVERELY limited.
Bit, how is the visibility in your LC?
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Old Jan 18, 2022 | 05:20 AM
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I want an electrified version of the first one
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