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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lwerewolf
Actually, one more thing about (most) Toyota/Lexus vehicles.

Their stability control tends to not be so good at helping the car get unstuck - watch some roller tests. The RX350, for example, doesn't appear to even attempt to block a wheel on a roller to move the car. The rav4 awd meanwhile has no such problems...
‘you are supposed to turn it off if you are stuck.
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 03:01 PM
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Ironically if you want the most high-tech Lexus, you would buy a new Toyota Mirai.
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 03:19 PM
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If you want long-term reliability, ten years +, the Toyota/Lexus is a better bet than a Ford. I'm not sure how long you kept your Fords "with no problems." If you lease a new vehicle every two-three years, long-term reliability doesn't factor-in as much.

I agree with an earlier poster about the Toyota Venza being a better bet than a Lexus for a mid-sized SUV. Many reviewers have said it is the most Lexus-like Toyota to date. However, if your wife is into the Lexus name for status, get the Lexus for a happy life!
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gramps7
I currently have a 2017 Ford Escape Titanium. My wife has always wanted a Lexus. We are considering the NX or the NXh. When reading about the tech stuff in this vehicle it is nothing that my 2017 Escape has. We will wait for the rumoured 2022 NX for the updating and upgrading that has been proposed or guessed at my car forums. What makes the Lexus get the high ratings? Is it quality, reliability comfort as compared to other brands. How will it compare to my Escape? We haven’t test drove a Lexus yet as we are waiting for the new model.
Welcome to Club Lexus.

We have a dedicated NX subforum so feel free to roam around here:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/nx-...5-present-264/
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gramps7
I currently have a 2017 Ford Escape Titanium. My wife has always wanted a Lexus. We are considering the NX or the NXh. When reading about the tech stuff in this vehicle it is nothing that my 2017 Escape has. We will wait for the rumoured 2022 NX for the updating and upgrading that has been proposed or guessed at my car forums. What makes the Lexus get the high ratings? Is it quality, reliability comfort as compared to other brands. How will it compare to my Escape? We haven’t test drove a Lexus yet as we are waiting for the new model.
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NX is also at the end of its lifecycle. The new Venza at Toyota is a much better option right now, much better platform, etc, if you're considering the NXh and need something sooner rather than later.
Totally agree with pbm317. I never did like the current NX, even when it was brand-new. The new Toyota Venza is a far better platform, has up-to-date-technology, and is more refined on the road. Your wife may want a Lexus-badge, but the Venza is a Lexus in Toyota clothing.

An all-new NX will be debuting soon, based on the Venza's platform. It will very likely, like the Venza itself, be a much better offering than the old NX. You might want to wait a little until it actually is on sale.....that will be up to you and your wife. Or, you could look at a current Lexus RX instead.
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Old Apr 13, 2021 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lwerewolf
Actually, one more thing about (most) Toyota/Lexus vehicles.

Their stability control tends to not be so good at helping the car get unstuck - watch some roller tests. The RX350, for example, doesn't appear to even attempt to block a wheel on a roller to move the car. The rav4 awd meanwhile has no such problems...
TCS will usually work against freeing stuck vehicles (because kinetic friction is needed but the car mistakenly thinks it's undesirable). The roller test problem suggests AWD implementation issue if TCS is disabled. Also unclear if OP is seeking AWD.

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Totally agree with pbm317. I never did like the current NX, even when it was brand-new. The new Toyota Venza is a far better platform, has up-to-date-technology, and is more refined on the road. Your wife may want a Lexus-badge, but the Venza is a Lexus in Toyota clothing.

An all-new NX will be debuting soon, based on the Venza's platform. It will very likely, like the Venza itself, be a much better offering than the old NX. You might want to wait a little until it actually is on sale.....that will be up to you and your wife. Or, you could look at a current Lexus RX instead.
The thread topic is the new NX, OP already said he's waiting for it.
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 02:05 AM
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I'm guessing OP is in BC, so I assumed that it might be a criteria.

On most "new" (read: the last almost 10 years, if not way more) vehicles, the stability control systems intervene to get you unstuck if a wheel or two (or three) don't have enough grip to move the car - you brake the one(s) without grip, torque gets to the one(s) with grip. Toyotas tend to be a bit of a hit and miss in this regard.

Not saying that you can't use such a vehicle in heavy winter conditions - brain & tyres matter above all else. Just noting these things in case the "AWD" (real or e-four) variants are being considered for whatever reason.
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 03:34 AM
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Bienvenue in the Lexus club.

All those techstuff you never use and shouldn't use when driving, is, for real, not Lexuse's forte.

Having their cars coming with hard technical finesses, is this brand's forte.

You can start at perfectly made pannel gaps, comfortable seats, continue to crazy engines that nobody made/makes like the 5L V8 NA or the 2JZ GE in the IS300 first gen. The 2GRFSE is also quite a solid one. You can have hybrid systems that really helps with fuel consumption, and, even for newer models, the cars are alive and have a real driving dynamic on the road. You will often see youngsters going out of mechanic school, and take pictures of your cars, because they know your car is a rolling masterpiece. You will never see that at Renault or Fiat, unless you drive a Multipla.

I can't grab my head around the SUV craze. I don't know how they could compare to the good stuff Lexus usually makes/made. But they are sure selling a lot.
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Benoit

I can't grab my head around the SUV craze..
What can't you wrap around? North Americans like larger vehicles...more space...and AWD can only really be purchased in crossovers and SUVs across the board as many manufacturers omit comparable awd in a lower priced car (until recently) Gas prices in the USA are also lower than many places in Europe or Canada. North Americans especially Americans love pick up trucks.
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
.and AWD can only really be purchased in crossovers and SUVs across the board as many manufacturers omit comparable awd in a lower priced car (until recently)
Subaru has made AWD standard in regular passenger cars for decades.
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Old Apr 14, 2021 | 08:22 AM
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IMO Toyota hybrids are some of the best cars on the road right now. Won't be needing that tech to find tow truck companies. And it's a better car than any Ford in every department except tech. Even door handles and glove box will have notable improvements. Lol, I like that kind of thing. Build quality.

I've looked at Ford and they've done good things I'm not downing them (too much)....but just me personally the Pros of Lexus FAR outweigh the cons of having less tech.
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