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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 07:23 AM
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People define all kinds of things the way they want, that doesn't mean they are correct. SRS is stamped on every airbag, Supplemental Restraint System. By definition the airbags supplement the seatbelts, its not open to interpretation. Airbags are not designed to be used without seatbelts.
To be clear, I wasn't trying to make a statement on what is correct - I know what is correct. I'm just keeping an open mind on how others may have come to a different conclusion.
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To be clear, I wasn't trying to make a statement on what is correct - I know what is correct. I'm just keeping an open mind on how others may have come to a different conclusion.
I totally got you were talking about others not you, but that doesnt mean that people who do feel that way are correct, they aren't.
Old Jan 4, 2021 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Clarke22
People that ride in my car say I’m strict when it comes to wearing seatbelts,

whst are you like when it comes to wearing seatbelts?

do you just assume they are being worn

ask passengers to put on there seatbelts

do you check seatbelt are being worn by a visual check?

would you personally put on a passenger seatbelt?
This is part of the basic checks before riding off with pals, family or work colleagues. Safety belt is easy to put on, and it's the drivers responsibility and liability, if other peoples aren't fastened in the car and an incident occur. Also, it's the driver who will have to pay the fines.

So yes, everybody is fastened when I drive off, and there is no exception.
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If you are driving you want to be sure your hands & arms etc are never blocking the airbag in the steering wheel. If the air bag goes off you are going to get the hardest punch in the face of your life. That's one of the reasons your arms & hands should stay on their side of the steering wheel!
Old Jan 4, 2021 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Byprodrive
If you are driving you want to be sure your hands & arms etc are never blocking the airbag in the steering wheel. If the air bag goes off you are going to get the hardest punch in the face of your life. That's one of the reasons your arms & hands should stay on their side of the steering wheel!

Well, with the horn-pad in the middle of the steering wheel, and some of the buttons/switches on the wheel very close to the center, it is not always possible to keep one's hands away from the air-bag housing.
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How to convert a traffic summons into an arrest: explain to the cop what he can't do.

Ever see the T shirt "Ride a Bike, Go to Jail"?
Old Jan 4, 2021 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sargon
How to convert a traffic summons into an arrest: explain to the cop what he can't do.
Exactly. Cops know the law....it's their job to know it. Most are honest, and (in my experience) will treat you fairly if you do not try to act like a know-it-all. And, if you (unfortunately) end up with a dishonest or corrupt one, he or she probably won't care what you say....or don't say.
Old Jan 4, 2021 | 01:40 PM
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Anyone under 18 in my car is required to wear a seat belt - the car doesn't move until everyone is belted, no exceptions.

Anyone 18 or over...they're adults, and they don't need me telling them how to live their lives.
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 02:21 PM
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If seatbelts aren't buckled in my car alarms go off so unless you want to go crazy hearing non stop chimes you better wear them.
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should go without saying but unfortunately there are many around my area that still don't wear them - mainly I observed driving lifted full size trucks!

also cabbies! they get around the buckle chime by routing the belt around the BACK of the seat and buckling it...clever but unwise.
Old Jan 4, 2021 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kense
If seatbelts aren't buckled in my car alarms go off so unless you want to go crazy hearing non stop chimes you better wear them.
Fortunately, my '04 RX is old enough that it doesn't have the annoying chime like my wife's Highlander that comes on after 60 seconds or so. I expect that to change when I get my NX next year, but hopefully a little surgery in the seat belt receptacle can fix that problem.
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Originally Posted by Dorsai
Fortunately, my '04 RX is old enough that it doesn't have the annoying chime like my wife's Highlander that comes on after 60 seconds or so. I expect that to change when I get my NX next year, but hopefully a little surgery in the seat belt receptacle can fix that problem.
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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorsai
Anyone under 18 in my car is required to wear a seat belt - the car doesn't move until everyone is belted, no exceptions.

Anyone 18 or over...they're adults, and they don't need me telling them how to live their lives.

With all due respect, that is incorrect. In some cases, adult or child, they DO need you to tell them what to do, at least inside your vehicle, when you are the driver. According to the laws in most states, as the driver, YOU are responsible to make sure that every adult and child in the vehicle is secured correctly. If they don't want to follow the law, then they can find some other form of transportation.....or a driver that also disregards the law by not making them belt up.

Same at a dealership, if and when a salesperson wants to go with me on a test-drive.....which is his or her prerogative. If I'm driving, he or she buckles up, period, or I don't move until they do.

What I said, though, is the law in most states. Georgia, where you are, may or may not be an exception.

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Old Jan 4, 2021 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
With all due respect, that is incorrect. In some cases, adult or child, they DO need you to tell them what to do, at least inside your vehicle, when you are the driver. According to the laws in most states, as the driver, YOU are responsible to make sure that every adult and child in the vehicle is secured correctly. If they don't want to follow the law, then they can find some other form of transportation.....or a driver that also disregards the law by not making them belt up.

Same at a dealership, if and when a salesperson wants to go with me on a test-drive.....which is his or her prerogative. If I'm driving, he or she buckles up, period, or I don't move until they do.

What I said, though, is the law in most states. Georgia, where you are, may or may not be an exception.
Oh, I'm aware of what the law says - in this instance (as with other inappropriate nanny-state laws) I simply don't obey it. I suppose that opens me up to some legal risk in the unlikely situation that I have a passenger who doesn't wear a seat belt (I actually can't think of anyone I've had in my car in the last several years who hasn't worn one) *and* encounter an overenthusiastic cop, but so be it.
Old Jan 4, 2021 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorsai
Oh, I'm aware of what the law says - in this instance (as with other inappropriate nanny-state laws) I simply don't obey it.
OK, well, then, that's your decision. I guess there's no further need for us to discuss it.

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