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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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I think the styling is very good to excellent, still hate the "fighter jet" intakes auto makers are obsessed with.
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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
The leases on them are horrible. When you build them to a proper spec the pricing is too rich for what they provide, at least now they have acceptable interior.
I mean when it comes to leases, I think almost anything looks "horrible" compared to BMW and Mercedes who basically throw the cars away. Smaller car companies can't compete with the significant lease program budgets that inflate residuals to hit those magic under 1% of MSRP per month numbers of BMW and Mercedes. Even Audi has trouble on lease programs compared to BMW/MB.
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Old Sep 18, 2020 | 12:18 PM
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This looks pretty awesome! My mom is obsessed with these cars and we looked at a few 2017 models. I thought it was a pretty nice vehicle but the 2021’s interior looks so much better. I don’t think I would waste the money on an older one after seeing this.
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Old Sep 18, 2020 | 01:44 PM
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I think the styling is very good to excellent, still hate the "fighter jet" intakes auto makers are obsessed with.
I love the fighter jet intakes....makes it not so boring.
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Old Sep 18, 2020 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kira X
This looks pretty awesome! My mom is obsessed with these cars and we looked at a few 2017 models. I thought it was a pretty nice vehicle but the 2021’s interior looks so much better. I don’t think I would waste the money on an older one after seeing this.
The pre-refresh F-Pace got overshadowed by its RR Velar sibling. Now, I think the two are pretty evenly matched in-and-out.
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
I mean when it comes to leases, I think almost anything looks "horrible" compared to BMW and Mercedes who basically throw the cars away. Smaller car companies can't compete with the significant lease program budgets that inflate residuals to hit those magic under 1% of MSRP per month numbers of BMW and Mercedes. Even Audi has trouble on lease programs compared to BMW/MB.
Jaguar is nowhere near as good as BMW or MB so they can’t get higher prices for lease or purchase.

Audi leases are much better last 3yrs and much more competitive than MB/BMW on some models.

BMW/MB leases are not “cheap” compared to other automakers unless your getting a demo 3series for $400/month

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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 07:35 AM
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The pre-refresh F-Pace got overshadowed by its RR Velar sibling. Now, I think the two are pretty evenly matched in-and-out.
Velar was a great design but I rarely see them. RR Sport is everywhere though.
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 03:09 PM
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I just got out of a month in an F Pace rental car while my LS was in the shop. Interior looks to be a HUGE upgrade, interior on the one I was driving was terrible. Laughably terrible materials for the price point. This looks much better.

Its a beautiful vehicle outside though, easily the best looking crossover IMO.
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 09:04 AM
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Jaguar is probably one of the last car manufacturers that still makes beautiful cars without resorting to gimmicky design trends like mammoth grills and flame surfacing. This update should help their sales.

For people worrying about their reliability, Jaguar offers a 5 years/60K miles bumper to bumper warranty that includes free maintenance.

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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax2k1
Jaguar is probably one of the last car manufacturers that still makes beautiful cars without resorting to gimmicky design trends like mammoth grills and flame surfacing. This update should help their sales.
Considering JLR was just a denied a bailout in their home country and they're under more financial strain than ever before, I don't think one CUV will make a huge difference, especially with Land Rover already around.
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Considering JLR was just a denied a bailout in their home country and they're under more financial strain than ever before, I don't think one CUV will make a huge difference, especially with Land Rover already around.
Where is Jaguar’s home country now?
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sdls
Where is Jaguar’s home country now?

It was once a classic British firm, but, since the breakup of the British automotive industry, was owned by Ford (U.S.), and now by Tata Motors of India. However, the company is still responsible to British oversight in some ways, as this from Wikipedia explains:

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On 1 January 2013, the group, which had been operating as two separate companies (Jaguar Cars Limited and Land Rover), although on an integrated basis, underwent a fundamental restructuring. The parent company was renamed to Jaguar Land Rover Automotive PLC, Jaguar Cars Limited was renamed to Jaguar Land Rover Limited and the assets (excluding certain Chinese interests) of Land Rover were transferred to it. The consequence was that Jaguar Land Rover Limited became responsible in the UK for the design, manufacture and marketing of both Jaguar and Land Rover branded products, and Land Rover and Jaguar Cars ceased to be separate vehicle producing entities.
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Old Sep 21, 2020 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Jaguar is nowhere near as good as BMW or MB so they can’t get higher prices for lease or purchase.

Audi leases are much better last 3yrs and much more competitive than MB/BMW on some models.

BMW/MB leases are not “cheap” compared to other automakers unless your getting a demo 3series for $400/month
Well they can get and do higher prices for leases and purchase, they just can't do it at the same volume/share that BMW/MB do it at, all about elasticity relative to the strength of the brand. Jaguar demand definitely isn't there. But for the ones that love and would consider the brand, these changes and updates are great.

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Old Sep 28, 2021 | 08:45 PM
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Motor Trend has their review up today for he P400, and I'll add in C&D's as well to make my point.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...t-test-review/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

Jaguar's new Ingenium I6 flat-out sucks. Turbocharged and supercharged with a mild hybrid system like Mercedes's AMG EQ Boost I6, and yet it takes 5.5-6 seconds to hit 60 in the F-Pace. Slower than any other 6-cylinder competitor barring its own sibling RR Velar. The Motor Trend review was trying to mask this by comparing the performance to the Q5 and RDX- both of which are turbo 4-cylinders. Pretty embarrassing.

Jaguar's always had issues with their 6-cylinders, prior to this the AJV6 being used was essentially a V8 with two cylinder holes covered up.
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Old Sep 28, 2021 | 08:51 PM
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F-Pace is a crossover that looks boring and bland with online pics. However, in person it looks quite nice

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