So I ordered a new 2021 4Runner. Arriving in Oct and I put $1000 down and signed the paperwork...it’s done. VIN number has not been determined and the rest of the money is due on delivery as the MSRP and pricing codes are set. So the dealer places the order or uses my purchase agreement to secure the model I wanted which is blue when they see it is available That is vastly different than dropping a $100 cancellable reservation that simply puts someone in line to be able to order the vehicle from a dealer who has to place the order(which is not even available to order yet)

100% agree, its just ridiculous.

NOBODY is going to cross shop a Blazer and a Bronco today, GM didnt intend them to.

The funny thing is...when the dust settles...I bet the current Blazer outsells the Bronco. The question will be on an ongoing basis how many people will buy the Bronco. I envision it being a sort of Ford FJ Cruiser. Excellent. Awesome. Nobody bought it.

People WANT crossovers.

A well respected publication grasping to find auto-related content in the pandemic age.

100% REFUNDABLE reservations.

Its like saying they sold 500,000 Tesla Cybertrucks. They didn't...and 95% of those will refund.

$6.90/share
my cost basis is $6.40/share so it’s ok

I didn't know these were being built in Mexico even more reason not to buy either one. Anyhow, this is all hilarious. So much broken promises, outright lies- sigh. Good thing I don't buy domestic cars. If I want a capable off-roader it will be a 4 Runner TRD which I plan to purchase sometime in the future.

Which province in Mexico is Wayne, Michigan located in again? My Geography isn't very good.

I thought bronco was MX built like the Chevy. Anyhow, too many domestic being built in MX.

I thought the Bronco Sport was made in Mexico...

Dunno Jill but Mr Michigan above alluded bronco being made in his state so I assume he's correct from his sarcastic approach. From MM's article I thought both were MX built but I don't buy domestic cars so my knowledge is limited.

PS. Jill, it appears you are correct so I wasn't all wrong then since one trim of the bronco is indeed being made in MX sigh....

No one in this thread has a registered location of Michigan. I just happen to know that the BOF Bronco that is the primary topic of this thread is being built there.

The Bronco Sport isn't a trim, it's a completely different vehicle, a compact unibody crossover. It's built in Mexico, alongside the Escape that it's based on.

Appreciate the clarity here, I did say my knowledge is limited in this area.

you 'merely' posted it to support your oft-repeated comparisons of current (not even shipping) bronco to current blazer, which are completely unrelated, just because they were once competitors 40 years ago.

and the 'well-respected' publication (an old newspaper) wrote it to get clicks.



i have no doubt about it. however, the bronco is cool, a niche vehicle, and will be very profitable.

i think it will do a lot better than the fj as ford realizes they need to have a LOAD of add-ons and rev the aftermarket too. toyota just kinda put the fj out there and said here it is.

good for you! even a dead cat will bounce if enough force is applied though.

You said pre orders and reservations are different. Now you're saying *orders* and reservations are different. Which is it?

Duh, big difference between pre-ordering a bronco and actually ordering one. . But pre-orders are simply RESERVING your right to order with a deposit. Im not retarded, been in the industry for a long time now.

But clearly you must know all because you've ordered *gasp* a 4Runner.

anyway...im out. Have fun debating semantics with yourself.