Kia Carnival
I could see a taxi service using them maybe but I don’t see how VIPs here in the US would spring to be driven around in a minivan. The idea itself is fairly laughable when you think of someone like a movie star pulling up in a Kia Circus minivan to a red carpet premiere.
Yes, that's why I said how they're used overseas, where they don't have tons of Escalades and Navigators running around. Conversion full size vans are also quite common in Korea for executive and celebrity transport.
Full Carnival specs and pricing is now on the KIA website.
I'm currently shopping for a minivan (but in no hurry) and this model is an interesting prospect. Unfortunately, the higher trim levels come with black wheels which may well appeal to younger buyers, but are a real turn-off for this senior.
I'm currently shopping for a minivan (but in no hurry) and this model is an interesting prospect. Unfortunately, the higher trim levels come with black wheels which may well appeal to younger buyers, but are a real turn-off for this senior.
Full Carnival specs and pricing is now on the KIA website.
I'm currently shopping for a minivan (but in no hurry) and this model is an interesting prospect. Unfortunately, the higher trim levels come with black wheels which may well appeal to younger buyers, but are a real turn-off for this senior.
I'm currently shopping for a minivan (but in no hurry) and this model is an interesting prospect. Unfortunately, the higher trim levels come with black wheels which may well appeal to younger buyers, but are a real turn-off for this senior.
Kia's new minivan tops out at $47,275 in its highest trim
It’s only been a week since the Kia Carnival debuted, and we already have full pricing available. The base LX starts at $33,275, including the $1,175 destination charge. Versus a totally base Sedona, that’s a $1,700 price increase.
Standard equipment for this base model includes 17-inch wheels, partial LED headlights, seven-passenger layout (eight-passenger optional), cloth manual seats, manual climate control, eight-inch infotainment system with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, analog instrument cluster (central 4.2-inch screen), six-speaker audio system, manual liftgate and a ton of driver assistance systems.
There’s an LX Seating Package to take things up a notch for the base trim. It raises the price by $2,000, but adds eight-passenger capacity, leatherette seats, an eight-way power driver’s seat (two-way lumbar), heated front seats and leather covered steering wheel and shift ****.
The EX and SX grades are the two mid-level options, with the EX starting at $38,775, and the SX at $42,275. If you want it all, the SX Prestige is the one to get. This model starts at $47,275, but it includes every option in the book as standard equipment.
The SX Prestige is the only way to get Kia’s trick VIP rear seats, and the seats come standard in this trim. Other SX Prestige-exclusive niceties include full LED headlights and taillights, a moonroof, real leather seats, heated steering wheel, Bose 12-speaker audio, 12.3-inch digital cluster, all-LED interior lighting and the Blind Spot View Monitor.
Compared to the full-zoot versions of the competition, the Carnival is cheaper than the Pacifica and the Sienna, but about on-par with the Odyssey. There’s obviously a ton of differentiation between equipment and packaging, but for a more full breakdown on that front, you can check out our recent Carnival comparison test.
Kia says the Carnival will be hitting dealer lots in the second quarter of 2021.
Standard equipment for this base model includes 17-inch wheels, partial LED headlights, seven-passenger layout (eight-passenger optional), cloth manual seats, manual climate control, eight-inch infotainment system with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, analog instrument cluster (central 4.2-inch screen), six-speaker audio system, manual liftgate and a ton of driver assistance systems.
There’s an LX Seating Package to take things up a notch for the base trim. It raises the price by $2,000, but adds eight-passenger capacity, leatherette seats, an eight-way power driver’s seat (two-way lumbar), heated front seats and leather covered steering wheel and shift ****.
The EX and SX grades are the two mid-level options, with the EX starting at $38,775, and the SX at $42,275. If you want it all, the SX Prestige is the one to get. This model starts at $47,275, but it includes every option in the book as standard equipment.
The SX Prestige is the only way to get Kia’s trick VIP rear seats, and the seats come standard in this trim. Other SX Prestige-exclusive niceties include full LED headlights and taillights, a moonroof, real leather seats, heated steering wheel, Bose 12-speaker audio, 12.3-inch digital cluster, all-LED interior lighting and the Blind Spot View Monitor.
Compared to the full-zoot versions of the competition, the Carnival is cheaper than the Pacifica and the Sienna, but about on-par with the Odyssey. There’s obviously a ton of differentiation between equipment and packaging, but for a more full breakdown on that front, you can check out our recent Carnival comparison test.
Kia says the Carnival will be hitting dealer lots in the second quarter of 2021.
Far-sliding second-row seat goes where no minivan has gone before
To date, we have only reviewed the fanciest-pants 2022 Kia Carnival SX Prestige with the seven-passenger configuration that includes second-row "VIP Lounge" seats with deployable footrests and a deep recline option. It's swank. However, it's probably a better choice for families with older kids who don't have to sit in car seats and can therefore take advantage of those extra features.
If that's not you, I recommend the eight-passenger configuration. Every minivan has some sort of second-row trick up its sleeve. The Honda Odyssey has the lateral-sliding Magic Slide seats. The non-hybrid Chrysler Pacifica has Stow 'n Go. The Toyota Sienna has the Super-Long Slide captain's chairs. The 2022 Kia Carnival not only offers the VIP Lounge seats, it offers the "Captain Kirk chair."
If that's not you, I recommend the eight-passenger configuration. Every minivan has some sort of second-row trick up its sleeve. The Honda Odyssey has the lateral-sliding Magic Slide seats. The non-hybrid Chrysler Pacifica has Stow 'n Go. The Toyota Sienna has the Super-Long Slide captain's chairs. The 2022 Kia Carnival not only offers the VIP Lounge seats, it offers the "Captain Kirk chair."
The second-row middle seat in the Carnival is more than just a quasi jump seat placed in between captain's chairs, as in the eight-passenger Sienna (top) and Pacifica. Like the Odyssey's (below), the seat is wider and therefore more comfortable, though still flatter and narrower than the outboard seats.
That's where the Odyssey and Carnival diverge.
That's where the Odyssey and Carnival diverge.
While the Carnival's can't be so easily removed as those in the Odyssey or others, it's capable of sliding a truly absurd degree back and forth. Bringing it all the way forward lets mom or dad more easily tend to their precious cargo in a front-facing car seat. Doing so also provides those in the outboard seats more shoulder room and/or an easier view of junior in a rear-facing car seat.
Then it gets crazy.
Then it gets crazy.
You can slide it back to the third row. This can also free up shoulder space with three people across, or make it easier/possible to install three car seats. You'd also still have legroom in the outboard third-row seats. This versatility is exceptional.
But it literally doesn't stop there.
But it literally doesn't stop there.
You can move the middle seat all the way back to where the third-row folds into the floor. This creates an unusual five-person seating arrangement. If there's another minivan that can do this, please let me know.
Doing this allows all three people to have unlimited shoulder room, and the person in the middle gets immense, sprawl-out legroom. You also preserve more cargo space than if you raised the 40-portion of the third-row to sit that extra person (which you'd have to do with just two second-row captain's chairs).
Sitting back there is unusual. There's either nothing on either side of you or you're surrounded by luggage. There's also no armrests (nor are there inner armrests for the captain's chairs, which is a definite down side). And, admittedly, the seat is harder and flatter than the third row.
This position would be why I dubbed the Carnival's middle seat the "Captain Kirk chair." Not actually because of the Enterprise bridge, but because the same name was once used to describe another unusual solo chair. You see, on KLM's 747 airplanes, there are two Business Class areas. One is upstairs, and the other is in the nose. Down there, pairs of seats fan out along the fuselage, leaving a large space in between each side -- just enough for a single lie-flat business class seat. I once heard it dubbed the "Captain Kirk chair," ironically, by the head of Kia corporate PR. It's a perfect descriptor, in both the 747 and the Carnival.
So, with Sulu and Chekov ahead with their respective computer terminals, let's take a look at some other features of the Carnival's second row.
This is the space provided for climbing into the third row. Obviously, with the Captain Kirk chair, you can't exactly climb through the captain's chairs. Hmm, that means there are captain's chairs and the Captain Kirk chair. I guess that's confusing. Admiral Kirk chair? Maybe, but only if you pronounce "Admiral" like Ricardo Montalbán.
Anyway, this space isn't that great. Also, the door juts out a great deal. My wife reported that it was difficult to maneuver around the door while securing our son in his rear-facing car seat when the outboard captain's chair was pushed all the way back.
Third-row comfort seems similar to other minivans, but a closer back-to-back sit could reveal differences. I would say it seems comfier than the Sienna's, while also having a less cave-like view thanks to bigger rear quarter windows.
Doing this allows all three people to have unlimited shoulder room, and the person in the middle gets immense, sprawl-out legroom. You also preserve more cargo space than if you raised the 40-portion of the third-row to sit that extra person (which you'd have to do with just two second-row captain's chairs).
Sitting back there is unusual. There's either nothing on either side of you or you're surrounded by luggage. There's also no armrests (nor are there inner armrests for the captain's chairs, which is a definite down side). And, admittedly, the seat is harder and flatter than the third row.
This position would be why I dubbed the Carnival's middle seat the "Captain Kirk chair." Not actually because of the Enterprise bridge, but because the same name was once used to describe another unusual solo chair. You see, on KLM's 747 airplanes, there are two Business Class areas. One is upstairs, and the other is in the nose. Down there, pairs of seats fan out along the fuselage, leaving a large space in between each side -- just enough for a single lie-flat business class seat. I once heard it dubbed the "Captain Kirk chair," ironically, by the head of Kia corporate PR. It's a perfect descriptor, in both the 747 and the Carnival.
So, with Sulu and Chekov ahead with their respective computer terminals, let's take a look at some other features of the Carnival's second row.
This is the space provided for climbing into the third row. Obviously, with the Captain Kirk chair, you can't exactly climb through the captain's chairs. Hmm, that means there are captain's chairs and the Captain Kirk chair. I guess that's confusing. Admiral Kirk chair? Maybe, but only if you pronounce "Admiral" like Ricardo Montalbán.
Anyway, this space isn't that great. Also, the door juts out a great deal. My wife reported that it was difficult to maneuver around the door while securing our son in his rear-facing car seat when the outboard captain's chair was pushed all the way back.
Third-row comfort seems similar to other minivans, but a closer back-to-back sit could reveal differences. I would say it seems comfier than the Sienna's, while also having a less cave-like view thanks to bigger rear quarter windows.
One feature I like is the ability to motor forward the front passenger seat using these controls. They came in handy when ensuring there was enough space for the rear-facing car seat.
This trim level, the SX (no Prestige), included touchscreens mounted to the front seats. Among its features are the Sounds of Nature feature (see video at the bottom of this page) found in many Kias, Hyundais and Genesiseses. If your kid will wear headphones, this could serve as a white noise machine for naps without making everyone else in the car listen to rain falling.
This trim level, the SX (no Prestige), included touchscreens mounted to the front seats. Among its features are the Sounds of Nature feature (see video at the bottom of this page) found in many Kias, Hyundais and Genesiseses. If your kid will wear headphones, this could serve as a white noise machine for naps without making everyone else in the car listen to rain falling.
The downside with those screens is that it slightly reduces the amount the second row can slide for third-row access. Worse, it significantly reduces the space between the front seat and a rear-facing child seat. You have to slide the front passenger seat further forward than you would without those screens — if you would at all.
In total, I'm a big fan of this configuration. I still think that the Sienna's Super-Long seat travel would be more beneficial for my family, but I really dig the Captain Kirk versatility, especially compared to the eight-passenger Sienna, which does not Super-Long slide. Really, all the various second-row designs are the main differentiator of the four competing minivans (well, besides the Sienna's game-changing fuel economy). Each offers something different, but none are necessarily better. They just satisfy different needs and preferences.
In total, I'm a big fan of this configuration. I still think that the Sienna's Super-Long seat travel would be more beneficial for my family, but I really dig the Captain Kirk versatility, especially compared to the eight-passenger Sienna, which does not Super-Long slide. Really, all the various second-row designs are the main differentiator of the four competing minivans (well, besides the Sienna's game-changing fuel economy). Each offers something different, but none are necessarily better. They just satisfy different needs and preferences.













