Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova

Kia Carnival

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 24, 2021 | 12:26 PM
  #106  
sdls's Avatar
sdls
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,218
Likes: 300
From: NA
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
That was more or less the initial idea behind the early Captain's Chair option on vans that first came out decades ago.
I did think about the frumpy big vans that had it and it’s thankfully out of style.

Originally Posted by pbm317
Not if you know how these sized vans are often used overseas, as VIP transportation.
I could see a taxi service using them maybe but I don’t see how VIPs here in the US would spring to be driven around in a minivan. The idea itself is fairly laughable when you think of someone like a movie star pulling up in a Kia Circus minivan to a red carpet premiere.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2021 | 12:32 PM
  #107  
pbm317's Avatar
pbm317
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,892
Likes: 14
From: Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by sdls
I could see a taxi service using them maybe but I don’t see how VIPs here in the US would spring to be driven around in a minivan. The idea itself is fairly laughable when you think of someone like a movie star pulling up in a Kia Circus minivan to a red carpet premiere.
Yes, that's why I said how they're used overseas, where they don't have tons of Escalades and Navigators running around. Conversion full size vans are also quite common in Korea for executive and celebrity transport.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2021 | 12:41 PM
  #108  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,785
Likes: 3,986
Default

almost reminds me of an explorer or expedition.

very impressive.
Reply
Old Feb 24, 2021 | 02:19 PM
  #109  
Toys4RJill's Avatar
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 35,426
Likes: 371
From: ON/NY
Default

Originally Posted by sdls


I could see a taxi service using them maybe but I don’t see how VIPs here in the US would spring to be driven around in a minivan. .
Would never happen with VIPs in North America
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2021 | 09:10 AM
  #110  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,624
Likes: 4,044
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Would never happen with VIPs in North America
Have you seen that Sienna VIP commercial where they sneak backstage and they let them in because they're in a Sienna? Ridiculous lol
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2021 | 12:05 PM
  #111  
Toys4RJill's Avatar
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 35,426
Likes: 371
From: ON/NY
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
Have you seen that Sienna VIP commercial where they sneak backstage and they let them in because they're in a Sienna? Ridiculous lol
Haven't seen it...however its just marketing.
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2021 | 12:45 PM
  #112  
TriC's Avatar
TriC
Racer
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 1,585
Likes: 279
From: Ohio
Default

Full Carnival specs and pricing is now on the KIA website.

I'm currently shopping for a minivan (but in no hurry) and this model is an interesting prospect. Unfortunately, the higher trim levels come with black wheels which may well appeal to younger buyers, but are a real turn-off for this senior.
Reply
Old Feb 25, 2021 | 12:46 PM
  #113  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,624
Likes: 4,044
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by TriC
Full Carnival specs and pricing is now on the KIA website.

I'm currently shopping for a minivan (but in no hurry) and this model is an interesting prospect. Unfortunately, the higher trim levels come with black wheels which may well appeal to younger buyers, but are a real turn-off for this senior.
Yeah I donkt know whats with Kia and the black wheels, same way with the Telluride.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2021 | 11:04 AM
  #114  
Hoovey689's Avatar
Hoovey689
2UR-GSE Owner
15 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 42,476
Likes: 320
From: California
Default 2022 Kia Carnival priced with a $1,700 premium over the outgoing Sedona

Kia's new minivan tops out at $47,275 in its highest trim

It’s only been a week since the Kia Carnival debuted, and we already have full pricing available. The base LX starts at $33,275, including the $1,175 destination charge. Versus a totally base Sedona, that’s a $1,700 price increase.

Standard equipment for this base model includes 17-inch wheels, partial LED headlights, seven-passenger layout (eight-passenger optional), cloth manual seats, manual climate control, eight-inch infotainment system with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, analog instrument cluster (central 4.2-inch screen), six-speaker audio system, manual liftgate and a ton of driver assistance systems.

There’s an LX Seating Package to take things up a notch for the base trim. It raises the price by $2,000, but adds eight-passenger capacity, leatherette seats, an eight-way power driver’s seat (two-way lumbar), heated front seats and leather covered steering wheel and shift ****.

The EX and SX grades are the two mid-level options, with the EX starting at $38,775, and the SX at $42,275. If you want it all, the SX Prestige is the one to get. This model starts at $47,275, but it includes every option in the book as standard equipment.

The SX Prestige is the only way to get Kia’s trick VIP rear seats, and the seats come standard in this trim. Other SX Prestige-exclusive niceties include full LED headlights and taillights, a moonroof, real leather seats, heated steering wheel, Bose 12-speaker audio, 12.3-inch digital cluster, all-LED interior lighting and the Blind Spot View Monitor.

Compared to the full-zoot versions of the competition, the Carnival is cheaper than the Pacifica and the Sienna, but about on-par with the Odyssey. There’s obviously a ton of differentiation between equipment and packaging, but for a more full breakdown on that front, you can check out our recent Carnival comparison test.

Kia says the Carnival will be hitting dealer lots in the second quarter of 2021.
Source
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2021 | 01:11 PM
  #115  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,624
Likes: 4,044
From: Maryland
Default

Thats a screaming deal...
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2021 | 07:10 AM
  #116  
pbm317's Avatar
pbm317
Lead Lap
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,892
Likes: 14
From: Virginia
Default

Not sure if Kia will ever bring out a PHEV of the new Sedona, but if they do it'll be high on our list.
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2022 | 12:15 PM
  #117  
Hoovey689's Avatar
Hoovey689
2UR-GSE Owner
15 Year Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 42,476
Likes: 320
From: California
Default The 8-passenger 2022 Kia Carnival has a 'Captain Kirk chair'

Far-sliding second-row seat goes where no minivan has gone before



To date, we have only reviewed the fanciest-pants 2022 Kia Carnival SX Prestige with the seven-passenger configuration that includes second-row "VIP Lounge" seats with deployable footrests and a deep recline option. It's swank. However, it's probably a better choice for families with older kids who don't have to sit in car seats and can therefore take advantage of those extra features.

If that's not you, I recommend the eight-passenger configuration. Every minivan has some sort of second-row trick up its sleeve. The Honda Odyssey has the lateral-sliding Magic Slide seats. The non-hybrid Chrysler Pacifica has Stow 'n Go. The Toyota Sienna has the Super-Long Slide captain's chairs. The 2022 Kia Carnival not only offers the VIP Lounge seats, it offers the "Captain Kirk chair."




​​​​​​​The second-row middle seat in the Carnival is more than just a quasi jump seat placed in between captain's chairs, as in the eight-passenger Sienna (top) and Pacifica. Like the Odyssey's (below), the seat is wider and therefore more comfortable, though still flatter and narrower than the outboard seats.

That's where the Odyssey and Carnival diverge.
While the Carnival's can't be so easily removed as those in the Odyssey or others, it's capable of sliding a truly absurd degree back and forth. Bringing it all the way forward lets mom or dad more easily tend to their precious cargo in a front-facing car seat. Doing so also provides those in the outboard seats more shoulder room and/or an easier view of junior in a rear-facing car seat.

Then it gets crazy.


You can slide it back to the third row. This can also free up shoulder space with three people across, or make it easier/possible to install three car seats. You'd also still have legroom in the outboard third-row seats. This versatility is exceptional.

But it literally doesn't stop there.




You can move the middle seat all the way back to where the third-row folds into the floor. This creates an unusual five-person seating arrangement. If there's another minivan that can do this, please let me know.

Doing this allows all three people to have unlimited shoulder room, and the person in the middle gets immense, sprawl-out legroom. You also preserve more cargo space than if you raised the 40-portion of the third-row to sit that extra person (which you'd have to do with just two second-row captain's chairs).

Sitting back there is unusual. There's either nothing on either side of you or you're surrounded by luggage. There's also no armrests (nor are there inner armrests for the captain's chairs, which is a definite down side). And, admittedly, the seat is harder and flatter than the third row.

This position would be why I dubbed the Carnival's middle seat the "Captain Kirk chair." Not actually because of the Enterprise bridge, but because the same name was once used to describe another unusual solo chair. You see, on KLM's 747 airplanes, there are two Business Class areas. One is upstairs, and the other is in the nose. Down there, pairs of seats fan out along the fuselage, leaving a large space in between each side -- just enough for a single lie-flat business class seat. I once heard it dubbed the "Captain Kirk chair," ironically, by the head of Kia corporate PR. It's a perfect descriptor, in both the 747 and the Carnival.

So, with Sulu and Chekov ahead with their respective computer terminals, let's take a look at some other features of the Carnival's second row.

This is the space provided for climbing into the third row. Obviously, with the Captain Kirk chair, you can't exactly climb through the captain's chairs. Hmm, that means there are captain's chairs and the Captain Kirk chair. I guess that's confusing. Admiral Kirk chair? Maybe, but only if you pronounce "Admiral" like Ricardo Montalbán.

Anyway, this space isn't that great. Also, the door juts out a great deal. My wife reported that it was difficult to maneuver around the door while securing our son in his rear-facing car seat when the outboard captain's chair was pushed all the way back.

Third-row comfort seems similar to other minivans, but a closer back-to-back sit could reveal differences. I would say it seems comfier than the Sienna's, while also having a less cave-like view thanks to bigger rear quarter windows.



One feature I like is the ability to motor forward the front passenger seat using these controls. They came in handy when ensuring there was enough space for the rear-facing car seat.

This trim level, the SX (no Prestige), included touchscreens mounted to the front seats. Among its features are the Sounds of Nature feature (see video at the bottom of this page) found in many Kias, Hyundais and Genesiseses. If your kid will wear headphones, this could serve as a white noise machine for naps without making everyone else in the car listen to rain falling.




The downside with those screens is that it slightly reduces the amount the second row can slide for third-row access. Worse, it significantly reduces the space between the front seat and a rear-facing child seat. You have to slide the front passenger seat further forward than you would without those screens — if you would at all.

In total, I'm a big fan of this configuration. I still think that the Sienna's Super-Long seat travel would be more beneficial for my family, but I really dig the Captain Kirk versatility, especially compared to the eight-passenger Sienna, which does not Super-Long slide. Really, all the various second-row designs are the main differentiator of the four competing minivans (well, besides the Sienna's game-changing fuel economy). Each offers something different, but none are necessarily better. They just satisfy different needs and preferences.
Source
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2022 | 12:19 PM
  #118  
Toys4RJill's Avatar
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 35,426
Likes: 371
From: ON/NY
Default

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411

Far-sliding second-row seat goes where no minivan has gone before


































Source
That is weird
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2022 | 06:20 PM
  #119  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 68,624
Likes: 4,044
From: Maryland
Default

Sat in this vehicle today at the car show, its seriously impressive...
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2022 | 12:53 PM
  #120  
timmy0tool's Avatar
timmy0tool
CL Community Team
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,435
Likes: 533
From: 714/949, SoCal
Default

just talked with a friend over the weekend who has 4 kids. he told me he ordered his carnival in january and it still hasn't arrived...
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:23 PM.