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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Even stuff like this...why do you try to make claims that are not true? The last Oldsmobile built was not a Silhouette. It was an Alero. You seem to try to go off anecdotal comments and memories where there is plenty of factual information available to us.

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Nice find We knew someone who had an Alero. It was very unreliable but a nice small car
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcajun
The smaller cars (Olds 88 & Buick Special) were based on the Chevy platform. Olds was the first to offer high performance (relatively) version by dropping the 98 engine into the 88 to make a Super 88. Buick dropped the Roadmaster engine into the Special to make it the Century.
The earlier Buick Specials were as you indicate. The later 60's-vintage Specials were smaller compact and intermediate-size cars.

The other big difference was that Buick had its own transmission, the Dynaflow, while Olds and Cadillac had hydromatics.
The Dynaflow lasted until the early 60s. For a relatively brief time in the 60s (including the '65 Electra I owned) Buick used its own version of the GM 3-speed Turdo-Hydra-Matic (and the smaller 2-speed Chevy Powerglide). In 1967, GM standardized all the 3-speed automatics in the latest THM.


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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 08:49 AM
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Nice find We knew someone who had an Alero. It was very unreliable but a nice small car

I addressed that, if you read my post #15.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 08:57 AM
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I liked the Alero. Had a girlfriend with one. Or perhaps she had an Intrigue. I may be getting them confused...

I remember one time my dad took me on a test drive of a new Achieva SCX with the quad-4 engine and a manual transmission. 190 horsepower was quite a lot for a 4 cylinder at the time. It was a fun drive, but very noisy, with a loud exhaust as I recall.

My folks ended up deciding the Achieva was too small and bought a new 94 Cutlass Supreme instead.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I wish I could go back in time and live in that area once again.
really? since you can't does that mean you don't enjoy the present? i just listened to an audiobook called The Power of Now. very very good.

anyway, i liked oldsmobiles. the FIRST car i ever rented was an olds '88 around 1982. it was huge, handled like a boat, gobs of power though and a roar from that v8. it was a HOOT to drive!
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Yes, what you posted here is correct...the actual last model off the production- line, from the latest records, was an Alero. I wasn't necessarily trying to go simply by memory....there was a whole bunch of different stuff in the media, back then, when Olds demised, about what was the last vehicle they offered (Bravada, Silouhette, etc...) and what was the last one produced. I may (?) have confused the last actual-production vehicle with the last-model to be offered.....that's possible. In some ways, though, it doesn't really matter today, though it is noted that the Alero you mentioned, a couple of years ago, sold for $42K

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/the-las...sold-for-42000
And the goal posts keep moving...

Anyways, the 98 was a dying breed for sure. GM had plenty of divisions that would continue to sell the large boats, like Buick. The Aurora which had come out in the mid 90s was a valiant attempt to pivot the brand. It was one of the first domestic cars that my friend's dad took for one of his corporate leases at the time. He had a Diamante before going into a 1st gen GS and then had an Aurora. Which was later replaced by the 2nd gen GS.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317

Anyways, the 98 was a dying breed for sure. GM had plenty of divisions that would continue to sell the large boats, like Buick. The Aurora which had come out in the mid 90s was a valiant attempt to pivot the brand. It was one of the first domestic cars that my friend's dad took for one of his corporate leases at the time.
The problem was that the Aurora was a mistake. I'm not just Monday-Morning quarterbacking....I said so at the time, though that was before I was at CL. It not only had reliability problems, but was simply too great a departure from the 88 and 98. I'm not one of those who believe that the 98 was necessarily a dying breed, if Olds had simply marketed it better. The changeover to a digital dash, an over-reliance on row after row of identical buttons, and ever-cheapening interior trim not worthy of a luxury sedan in that class all did their parts in driving away buyers. It was interesting, though, that, after several years of the digital gauge-panel, Olds converted the panel back to analog....but, by then, the damage had been done.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 11:40 AM
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Video brought back memories.
I'm an Olds fan as well. Learned to drive on a 1958 Olds 88 (what a solid tank). First new car I bought a couple of years out of college was a 1977 Cutlass Salon (silver with red vinyl landau top w/red interior). Last Olds was a 1989 98 Regency.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 02:04 PM
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The only memories I can remember about the 98 was the Public Enemy song about their Olds 98 but I personally never like Olds. So now I'm going to have that song in my head for a while now.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 02:14 PM
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This thread needs more nostalgic pics
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 02:32 PM
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My first car was a 1950 Olds 2 door coupe. It had the Rocket 88 engine with Hydramatic transmission. Back in the day, it was pretty fast but in hindsight it was also a bit of a junker too. Good memories though.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
My first car was a 1950 Olds 2 door coupe. It had the Rocket 88 engine with Hydramatic transmission. Back in the day, it was pretty fast but in hindsight it was also a bit of a junker too. Good memories though.
Oldsmobile invented the Hydra-matic transmission, in 1940. It was the first widely-produced transmission without a clutch pedal.



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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Nice find We knew someone who had an Alero. It was very unreliable but a nice small car
Very nice exterior style.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I liked the Alero. Had a girlfriend with one. Or perhaps she had an Intrigue. I may be getting them confused...

I remember one time my dad took me on a test drive of a new Achieva SCX with the quad-4 engine and a manual transmission. 190 horsepower was quite a lot for a 4 cylinder at the time. It was a fun drive, but very noisy, with a loud exhaust as I recall.

My folks ended up deciding the Achieva was too small and bought a new 94 Cutlass Supreme instead.
I'm betting it was the Alero, they looked great.
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Old Apr 3, 2020 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
It was not 13 years later. My comment at the show was made well into the 90s, though I don't remember the exact year. Olds failed for a lot of reasons, but the poor design of its vehicles was clearly one of them. The Aurora (which was the brainchild of Oldsmobile CEO John Rock) came along a few years later, but never really took off of several reasons....poor reliability was one. incidentally, the very last vehicle to roll off an olds assemblymen line was a "Dust-Buster" Silouhette minivan...a classic example of poor design, also shared with the Pontiac Trans Sport and Chevy Lumina APV.
Possibly John Rock's worst decision was the Shelby Series 1 car.
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