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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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No credit is not the same thing as poor credit. You can have an 800 credit score and still have insufficient credit history to get approved on your own. You can believe whatever you want but reality is reality lol
Of course. Something similar happened to myself decades ago in my late 20s, my sister and most recently my mother at the age of 75. Some just have no need for a loan or credit. I don’t think someone could have a credit score of 800 with an insufficient history, perhaps yes or not, not really of importance to me. Bad credit is often reflected with a poor credit score.

It is highly improbable that this friend of the OP has a 800* score with an insufficient history, it is very likely the person has a poor credit score which is what I had meant.

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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 10:12 AM
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Couldn't the friend at least become an Uber/Amazon driver and make enough from that to cover the cost of the lease payments and insurance, while still having time to look for new work?
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I cycle through credit offers to maximize points and such. Wife and I both have over 800 scores, hers being slightly higher than mine. We don't plan to finance anything else huge in a while so we're not too concerned by temporary dips in our rating after closing accounts as it always rebounds within a month or two. What I learned is you can transfer your credit line from one credit card to another before you close it. This only works when both cards are issued by the same bank but it reduces the impact to your credit score because the credit bureaus do not see a reduction to your total available credit line. This tip was shared by the credit card representative when I closed a card.
The question is how old are the accounts. I have several accounts that are really old, if you close an old account and open a new account that has a big impact because it changes your average account age.

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Of course. Something similar happened to myself decades ago in my late 20s, my sister and most recently my mother at the age of 75. Some just have no need for a loan or credit. I don’t think someone could have a credit score of 800 with an insufficient history, perhaps yes or not, not really of importance to me. Bad credit is often reflected with a poor credit score.

It is highly improbable that this friend of the OP has a 800* score with an insufficient history, it is very likely the person has a poor credit score which is what I had meant.
It all depends on what the lender needs to see in order to do the loan. For instance if you have one credit card and pay it religiously and have low utilization you can absolutely have an 800 score. The lender may still deny that without a cosigner because you don't have a rich enough history with different types of credit lines.

For a car lease, typically they wont approve a car lease if you dont have a prior car loan on your report or a mortgage. So if you have credit cards and excellent credit but have never financed a car before and don't own a home, you might not get approved for a car lease on your own.

Thats not an issue for a mortgage or a car loan.
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FatherTo1
Couldn't the friend at least become an Uber/Amazon driver and make enough from that to cover the cost of the lease payments and insurance, while still having time to look for new work?
Probably not, due to the fact that most leases have a limit on mileage.
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The question is how old are the accounts. I have several accounts that are really old, if you close an old account and open a new account that has a big impact
True, I do not close the longstanding accounts, just the ones I've been signing up for the point bonuses since most rewards cards are limited to new applicants (anyone not having the card within the past 24 months).
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 11:53 AM
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Probably not, due to the fact that most leases have a limit on mileage.
Oh, good point! Forgot about that one, and a primary reason I never leased.
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 11:54 AM
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I don't think being a co-signer gives you any right to the car, even if you are paying for it. You may have to get him to sign it over to you before you can do anything about it other than just pay for it. There are sites that list leases for others to take over. Once you get to that point, you may want to try that.

https://www.swapalease.com/
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 12:05 PM
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"Credit rating"? It is to laugh.
Tens of thousands of bad mortgages were written for people with no job, no credit history, and no assets. We're all still paying for it
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FatherTo1
Oh, good point! Forgot about that one, and a primary reason I never leased.
Same here. Among others reason why we never lease.
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Same here. Among others reason why we never lease.
i used to think like you but then learned from many people i know that leasing can make perfect sense for some people for many 'reasons'.
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i used to think like you but then learned from many people i know that leasing can make perfect sense for some people for many 'reasons'.
Agreed. I changed my tune and am totally open to leasing , seeing how the numbers can actually be cheaper in some cases. It is just the mileage allowance that kills it for me.

My wife has held onto her ES 330 for 14 yrs and 2 months now. She used to drive a lot during the first few years but the past decade has been 5000-6000 miles a year. Even at the 10 year mark she just broke even compared to leasing once I factored in maintenance, repairs, and tires. Now, if we stretched the oil change intervals and didn't buy Michelins all the time then maybe we would have been ahead sooner, but her car is so old and outdated now. In hindsight, she could be driving a newer car every few years with maintenance included and modern convenience and safety features, but she loves her ES and thinks it is the best car on the road, bless her heart.

To Lexus' credit, her ES interior and leather still looks excellent. The car has held up extremely well. They don't make cars like that anymore. The tranny has hiccups, as is common in that gen ES, but the car overall is still quite comfortable and feels like it will still be good for another decade. That car might just be her first and last car.
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Probably not, due to the fact that most leases have a limit on mileage.
Though it wasn't my suggestion, I would assume it would be a short-term stopgap, not a permanent change. He likely wouldn't run up so many miles in 3-6 weeks as to blow out his lease allowance, unless he's right at the edge already.
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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I know you have to provide proof of insurance but it makes me wonder if there's a way for someone to rent a car to use for Uber. Hypothetically, they may make enough to pay for the daily rental and maybe even cover the rental car insurance coverage, all without accruing miles or wear-and-tear on their own vehicle.
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FatherTo1
I know you have to provide proof of insurance but it makes me wonder if there's a way for someone to rent a car to use for Uber. Hypothetically, they may make enough to pay for the daily rental and maybe even cover the rental car insurance coverage, all without accruing miles or wear-and-tear on their own vehicle.
It is possible to rent a car. Uber does not check the driver's credit, so that is a plus for the individual in this scenario
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 01:49 PM
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I don't think Uber is as lucrative as it was a few years ago. My roommate(and also tenant) is an uber driver and he's been struggling to pay rent lately, usually a week or more behind. And he just financed a repair to his Elantra.
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