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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 06:34 AM
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You guys are so hung up on ‘body on frame’ as being so great. So the Jeep Grand Cherokee (not BOF) is not worthy huh?
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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 06:41 AM
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You guys are so hung up on ‘body on frame’ as being so great. So the Jeep Grand Cherokee (not BOF) is not worthy huh?
I don’t think that is the case that we are saying body on frame is great. Nothing wrong with some enthusiast talk for something, we are all supposedly like cars on this forum. A small batch for North America would be cool to see. What is wrong with more choice anyways? And the 2 best selling vehicles in the US are body on frame . So there is some sort of market for body on frame somewhere.
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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
You guys are so hung up on ‘body on frame’ as being so great.
Us? Unlike you and your former 2006 (?) Explorer, I personally don't own a BOF vehicle, and have not since the 1970s. But, like it or not, BOF does have some advantages not shared by unibodies....in many cases, easier accident repair, heftier towing capacities, and better off-road suitability, although there are indeed some unibodies that also do well off-road.

So the Jeep Grand Cherokee (not BOF) is not worthy huh?
I'm not downing the JGC one bit....in fact, I did several reviews/test-drives and was generally pleased with each, especially the first-year 4Gen 2011....after 2011, the interior, IMO, lost some of its richness in trim.
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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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Us? Unlike you and your former 2006 (?) Explorer, I personally don't own a BOF vehicle, and have not since the 1970s.
Not relevant to the topic of whether a Mohave comes to the U.S. and the fact that my old Explorer was BOF was completely irrelevant to me.
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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 08:59 AM
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I don’t think that is the case that we are saying body on frame is great. Nothing wrong with some enthusiast talk for something, we are all supposedly like cars on this forum. A small batch for North America would be cool to see.
Ok. Agreed, and agreed - on the last point I’m just speculating that I don’t think it will happen, but if it does, great, if they actually sell a bunch. If only a few, they will lose money on it (because of having to keep spare parts, logistics, training, etc).

What is wrong with more choice anyways? And the 2 best selling vehicles in the US are body on frame . So there is some sort of market for body on frame somewhere.
Well now you’re talking about pickup trucks a different market. They’re BOF because they’re large, have to be capable of hauling and towing heavier loads than non-trucks, AND because it’s a well established and CHEAPER way to make vehicles.
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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Ok. Agreed, and agreed - on the last point I’m just speculating that I don’t think it will happen, but if it does, great, if they actually sell a bunch. If only a few, they will lose money on it (because of having to keep spare parts, logistics, training, etc).

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I doubt it will happen. But Kia has the K900 and that is unique, rare and sells in very low quantities. I am sure KIA could make is happen.

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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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As I said earlier, it will depend on how the new Bronco does. If the Bronco sells well (as I think it will), it will be difficult for Kia not to introduce a suitable competitor.
That new Bronco, based on the concepts, is a niche vehicle anyway. I'm not convinced one thing has anything to do with the other. I think this draws way more buyers from 4Runner than Bronco.
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Old Aug 21, 2019 | 09:59 AM
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Old Sep 5, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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actual interior...



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https://www.motor1.com/news/369130/k...rior-revealed/
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 04:31 AM
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Mohave interior looks much more cohesive and elegant than the Telluride.Now if they could only make something like that in a 5 passenger/2 row vehicle. Would love something this size but with the extra storage instead of the 3rd row.
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 05:40 AM
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The Bronco is aimed directly at the Wrangler with the supposedly solid front axle and removable top/doors. While another BoF entry into the SUV market would be nice, not sure they would actually compete.
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 06:31 AM
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While another BoF entry into the SUV market would be nice, not sure they would actually compete.

Not sure I agree. Bring them on. The market is completely flooded with crossover/unibody SUVs today.....but many traditional smaller BOF SUVs are available for choice in the American market? You can count them on the fingers of one hand....if even that.

GM, recently, for example, could have introduced a true Blazer, but chose, inserted, to give us an awkward-looking crossover.

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What is wrong with more choice anyways? And the 2 best selling vehicles in the US are body on frame . So there is some sort of market for body on frame somewhere.
Good point. I agree with your thinking.

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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 08:55 AM
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GM, recently, for example, could have introduced a true Blazer, but chose, inserted, to give us an awkward-looking crossover.
GM has a "true Blazer". It's called "Tahoe". I know that you know that the Tahoe was the name created for the 4-door K5 Blazer.
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 09:43 AM
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let's not turn this into ANOTHER thread about blazer, bronco... thank you.
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Originally Posted by tex2670
GM has a "true Blazer". It's called "Tahoe". I know that you know that the Tahoe was the name created for the 4-door K5 Blazer.
The truest “Blazer” name is the current 2019 Blazer. Otherwise, there was a K5 Blazer and a S-10 Blazer.
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