Stroock639

of course flying is much more involved than driving, and yes under most conditions driving is a very low effort activity... but a test that if you pass allows you to drive a car literally anywhere within the country shouldn't cover just the bare minimum, that's exactly how accidents happen since people are then inadequately prepared for when something extreme happens

pretty much everyone will look at their phone at some point when they're driving, and the road test does nothing to address this or the many other electronic screens and devices scattered throughout the modern vehicle... during the test you should have to text 'hello' to 3 different people and change 3 radio presents, or something like that lol

Och

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I'm not singling you out, you're a car enthusiast like all of us on this site, and probably a better than average driver that can handle multitasking. However, distracted driving is a widespread problem and you can't deny the fact that it is currently one of top causes for car crashes. It's only a matter of time until law enforcement start to really crack down on it, and they wont discriminate between a businessman replying to a customer's text and and a blonde bimbo updating her FB status.

Och

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No need for a bus - they can use motorcycles and bicycles and have a field day out there.

sm1ke

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I didn't mean to make this about you specifically. I also didn't mean to make it sound like I'm judging you - again it was just my opinion, and it's not how I would personally handle the situation if I were in your shoes. I simply said that distracted drivers like you, who insist that their behaviour/distractions are more important than paying attention to the road like everyone else, call for tech to reduce the distraction, but don't use what's currently available. This is based on your previous post here:


Whether you're working or posting on social media, a distraction is a distraction. How is confirming a meeting time with a customer via text different from confirming a dinner date with a friend via text? There's no difference.

On top of that, typing a text out is far more distracting than taking a phone call. At least with a phone call, your eyes are still on the road instead of on the keyboard. My wife thinks the same way you do, and would rather text someone and wait minutes for an answer than try calling them to have a real conversation. I'm going to sound like my 80 year old grandma, but when did dialing a phone become so outdated?

Toys4RJill

I agree. It is distracted driving. I get over 100 emails a day, most are just to let me know of something but an email is just that, an email, they usually do not require an immediate response. Years ago I learned to just check them in the morning at 5am and never look again till the next day. What did people do before email and texts?

mmarshall

Before the Great Age of Electronic Distraction behind the wheel, it was basically (and still is, too many times), driving after Happy Hour.

sm1ke

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I mean, SW17LS has explained why he needs to work in the car, so it makes sense. I just don't personally agree with it because of the distraction it causes. Doubtful that law enforcement would care what the reason for the distraction is either. Until the tech can catch up to the needs of drivers like him and make it truly safe to communicate via text/email while driving, it's up to enforcement to discourage the behaviour. But there isn't enough manpower to catch every offender, so people will continue to do what they're doing until they get caught. It's an uphill battle that won't be won by law enforcement alone.

Toys4RJill

It doesn’t make sense if it is not legal. Just my opinion. Apple Car Play solves the phone call and text issue. Emails I do not see the point.

RX469

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I agree with these comments below..


With Phone OS integration as a beginning solution.

AJLex19

The phone presents one of the biggest challenges to date with focus. The phone is a distraction that is amplified by our thought that if we aren't communicating at this instant, something wrong will happen (lose a job, lose a client, lost money, lost time, etc.). I've actually been chastised by friends, family and business partners for not replying to a text, missing their call or not responding to their email within their expected time frame...when it was not an emergency or a priority. Everything can't be a priority - its just unrealistic. A smartphone makes you THINK everything else other than what you are currently doing must be a priority.

Imagine this: many posters have stated that they use their phone in their cars for business or pleasure or out of necessity...do you know how many cops I've seen, parked, stopped at a light, even driving using their cell phones for the same reasons? Cops in the subways looking down at the cell phone instead of the kid who just jumped the turnstile? Cops are provided a department issued smartphone when they join the force as a tool to help them background check, fill out paperwork, etc. But that's still a distraction! The next generation of cops are afflicted with the same issue of a cell phone being a distraction.

How can you have enforcement or observe the pattern of a drunk driver, a driver that is distracted by text/email messaging, or of a driver that is tired ... if the people who enforce are distracted by the very thing??!

The only real solution that i've seen mentioned would be for the phone to function through the vehicle in limited ways..anything else isn't going to work to stop this crazy phenomenon!

mmarshall

What probably makes the most sense, most of the time, is that, if one gets a phone call on his or her cell-phone while driving, one simply holds it until the next stop light, and then answers it or calls the person back. Simply talk, as much as possible, when the car is stalled in traffic or not moving.

Och

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Talking on the phone through bluetooth isn't a problem, its texting and other activities that require looking at the phone and taking hand off the steering wheel.

SW17LS

Of course its a widespread problem, but the way to improve the problem is to understand that people WILL communicate while in their cars, and make cars safer understanding that reality, which is happening. AI and more informal voice control over vehicles and phones is coming. We are very close to having truly conversational speech to text functionality, which will help a lot. Passive vehicle safety tech like forward collision intervention helps people who aren't as smart also.

You're assuming that I'm texting while driving because Siri voice to text doesn't work great. I am not. I do not text or type on a phone when driving a moving car. I do it while stopped at a light, or stopped in traffic though, which is technically illegal. When moving I do use the voice to text, or if something requires a serious response I will pull over. My point was simply that these technologies still need to improve.

Its about exercising good judgement about what is important enough to risk the distraction.

Who has said it isn't more distracting?

It depends on the purpose of a conversation. Many people prefer to text, they can text while in meetings or in places where they can't talk. When you reply to a text with a phone call thats actually quite annoying to people who want to text. When they text you, they want to text. If they wanted to talk to you on the phone they would have called you on the phone.



The reality is...this is reality. People expect a response immediately. When you're dealing in a business context, you have to meet peoples expectations or there will be consequences. I can give you several examples where not responding to something immediately has cost me $10,000+.

AJLex19

Yep, exactly my point - since everyone expects a response immediately, it puts you (and everyone else actually) in the same predicament..should I focus on what i'm doing, or should I re-focus and split my attention? ...and we've all had to make a tough choice to prioritize based on what is in your best interest...a distraction to accommodate an immediate response.

Not saying you specifically - just in general, texting and email have become conversation like in terms of the expectation...if you're having an active, verbal conversation with someone and it takes them more than 3-5 seconds to respond, its considered very odd, maybe insulting, maybe makes you seem strange or eccentric (or slow)..you get judged. Unfortunately, we've made text/email the same thing - people judge you harshly if you don't respond almost as fast as you can type!

Nonetheless, the stats are showing that distraction from smartphones while driving is on the rise - now someone will need to innovate to solve the smartphone distraction issue....and again, I do think it will get resolved, but only through more tech...

SW17LS

Yep, agreed on all points