Motor Trend Comparo - 330i vs G70 vs Model 3
#16
Lexus Fanatic
They barely talk about luxury for the G70. The don't even know their own title.
#17
Lexus Champion
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#18
Lexus Fanatic
For example:
Headline: WHO BUILDS THE BEST COMPACT LUXURY SEDAN?
First three words of the article: Sport sedan lovers,
End of the first paragraph:The luxury sport sedan segment might be down, but it is definitely not out.
Final Paragraph: The Tesla Model 3 wins this competition because it has thoroughly rewritten the rules of what a compact sport sedan can be.
#19
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
None taken. I didn't write the article. I just wanted to prompt a discussion about how these sedans compare.
#20
Lexus Fanatic
I think some people have a very hard time accepting an electric car can be best in class. Especially from a new auto maker, Tesla has been in business 15 years BMW in some capacity over 100.
#21
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Thread Starter
I have a friend with a Model 3. I am going to have to ask her to let me take it for a spin to form an opinion of my own. She and her husband love it and are hoping to eventually replace their MDX with a Model Y.
I also have not driven the new 3 Series. I'd like to, but I'm not in the market so I don't really want to waste a salesperson's time. I'm sure a friend or coworker will pick one up soon that I can take a drive in. I have not driven the G70, but have quite a bit of time behind the wheel of the Stinger. I loved the Stinger, but understand the G70 is supposed to handle even better.
I also have not driven the new 3 Series. I'd like to, but I'm not in the market so I don't really want to waste a salesperson's time. I'm sure a friend or coworker will pick one up soon that I can take a drive in. I have not driven the G70, but have quite a bit of time behind the wheel of the Stinger. I loved the Stinger, but understand the G70 is supposed to handle even better.
#22
Lexus Fanatic
I have a friend with a Model 3. I am going to have to ask her to let me take it for a spin to form an opinion of my own. She and her husband love it and are hoping to eventually replace their MDX with a Model Y.
I also have not driven the new 3 Series. I'd like to, but I'm not in the market so I don't really want to waste a salesperson's time. I'm sure a friend or coworker will pick one up soon that I can take a drive in. I have not driven the G70, but have quite a bit of time behind the wheel of the Stinger. I loved the Stinger, but understand the G70 is supposed to handle even better.
I also have not driven the new 3 Series. I'd like to, but I'm not in the market so I don't really want to waste a salesperson's time. I'm sure a friend or coworker will pick one up soon that I can take a drive in. I have not driven the G70, but have quite a bit of time behind the wheel of the Stinger. I loved the Stinger, but understand the G70 is supposed to handle even better.
#23
drives cars
I have a coworker who has a Dual Motor Model 3 (that's the AWD model, in layman's terms) and have taken it for a spin around the block. I've also driven a long-range RWD Model 3.
I like the way this car drives, no doubt about it. The instant response from the accelerator is amazing. I don't think it would ever get old to just stab the throttle, especially with the Dual Motor setup, since it was legitimately fast, quite possibly the quickest-feeling car I've driven. It felt like easily a low-4-second car. In addition, the steering response was quite good - it honestly felt like the ratio was basically taken directly out of the IS, as it felt nearly the same. There was a little less body roll, which I liked as well. I also thought the quality of materials on the seats and throughout the interior was fairly good, if not quite as detail-oriented as it should be for the segment. For instance, my coworker's $59,000-ish Dual Motor model has a pretty basic-looking and -feeling headliner, something prior 3-series even avoid, not to mention my own IS with its microfiber-esque black headliner. And, the the steering wheel is completely unremarkable in terms of materials and feel.
I will say I think the Model 3 seems "cheap" to some people because of that lack of attention to detail. Everything is surface-level. That said, the practical bits are all there. No gas station visits (during commuting anyway). It's easy to get in and out of. The visibility is great. The sound system is good. I could go on, but the problem is that it lacks personality. Sure, there are Easter eggs in the infotainment system, but the actual driving nature and the hardware in the car seem very basic, if of acceptable quality.
Anyway, it's a great car all things considered, so I am not surprised it won the comparison test. I would not get one, as it just doesn't tick all the boxes for me. Namely, there's no gauge cluster, and I don't like looking over to the side to see my speed. Additionally, it would seem to be somewhat impractical for longer trips. However, I think I would recommend it to the right buyer.
Honestly my pick of the three, just on-paper, would be the G70. You can't beat that value, and from my prior experience with Hyundai and Genesis, I'd expect it to be a solidly-made vehicle.
I like the way this car drives, no doubt about it. The instant response from the accelerator is amazing. I don't think it would ever get old to just stab the throttle, especially with the Dual Motor setup, since it was legitimately fast, quite possibly the quickest-feeling car I've driven. It felt like easily a low-4-second car. In addition, the steering response was quite good - it honestly felt like the ratio was basically taken directly out of the IS, as it felt nearly the same. There was a little less body roll, which I liked as well. I also thought the quality of materials on the seats and throughout the interior was fairly good, if not quite as detail-oriented as it should be for the segment. For instance, my coworker's $59,000-ish Dual Motor model has a pretty basic-looking and -feeling headliner, something prior 3-series even avoid, not to mention my own IS with its microfiber-esque black headliner. And, the the steering wheel is completely unremarkable in terms of materials and feel.
I will say I think the Model 3 seems "cheap" to some people because of that lack of attention to detail. Everything is surface-level. That said, the practical bits are all there. No gas station visits (during commuting anyway). It's easy to get in and out of. The visibility is great. The sound system is good. I could go on, but the problem is that it lacks personality. Sure, there are Easter eggs in the infotainment system, but the actual driving nature and the hardware in the car seem very basic, if of acceptable quality.
Anyway, it's a great car all things considered, so I am not surprised it won the comparison test. I would not get one, as it just doesn't tick all the boxes for me. Namely, there's no gauge cluster, and I don't like looking over to the side to see my speed. Additionally, it would seem to be somewhat impractical for longer trips. However, I think I would recommend it to the right buyer.
Honestly my pick of the three, just on-paper, would be the G70. You can't beat that value, and from my prior experience with Hyundai and Genesis, I'd expect it to be a solidly-made vehicle.
#25
Lexus Fanatic
Come up with some actual arguments not this childish nonsense.
#28
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#30
Lexus Test Driver
9 out of 10 ppl will get the 330i and that’s because it is by far the BEST car of the three.
I built a 330i Msport for $50k - the one they tested has useless track package, park assist etc.
G70 can’t be used as sedan.
Model 3 will not lease well and is not suitable for most ppl who don’t have access to private garage. Design is lacking in a big way inside and out.
I built a 330i Msport for $50k - the one they tested has useless track package, park assist etc.
G70 can’t be used as sedan.
Model 3 will not lease well and is not suitable for most ppl who don’t have access to private garage. Design is lacking in a big way inside and out.