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Old 05-27-19, 01:21 PM
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Well, no, not really. Though I've never really purchased or leased a new BMW myself, I agree with you, in shopping for BMW with other people, and in sampling/reviewing their products myself, that the Snoot-O-Matic people are now mostly gone. But I did run into a number of them in past days.

And I also got a pleasant surprise with one of them....turned out to be a guy I had gone to high-school with, roughly half a century ago. We sat in a number of the same classrooms together...just one row apart (alphabetically). He had sold Toyotas and Hondas, and was now with BMW/Mini. In addition to talking cars, we had fun talking over old times.
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Correct.....not much any more, as I stated. But, if I may be blunt, I can remember when a number (not all) of BMW sales-reps and sales managers thought their **** didn't stink. Ditto, in some cases, for Porsche and Mercedes dealerships.,..although they, too, are much better today.
Reading between the lines, seems like you have something against BMW.


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Arrogant dealerships? Snooty/arrogant reps? I've purchased 3 BMW's now and in each case the dealerships and reps have been relaxed and laid back. I haven't seen these traits that you speak of.
I have never had a bad experience at BMW. Some locations are better than others.
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If a brand is strong, they would not have to go out on a limb. So I see it a little different. All available evidence shows that the Korean brand cars become problematic after the 4-5 year period. My brother has an Elantra hatch and had his engine replaced just before the bumper to bumper warranty ended
Keep in mind that Hyundai and Kia did this years ago, in trying to combat years of poor quality reputation. But once they offered this longer warranty, it's hard to take it away without an impact on sales. They are kind of stuck with it now, for better or worse. Seems to me that it's been for the better.
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Correct.....not much any more, as I stated. But, if I may be blunt, I can remember when a number (not all) of BMW sales-reps and sales managers thought their **** didn't stink. Ditto, in some cases, for Porsche and Mercedes dealerships.,..although they, too, are much better today.
Please--every brand had good and bad dealers and sales people. I've had a sales person cop an attitude with me regarding a Nissan Sentra. Until you do a scientific poll of all dealerships of all brands, this is merely your "impression", and not at all a fact.
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Keep in mind that Hyundai and Kia did this years ago, in trying to combat years of poor quality reputation. But once they offered this longer warranty, it's hard to take it away without an impact on sales. They are kind of stuck with it now, for better or worse. Seems to me that it's been for the better.
I agree. Hard to take it away. I would not buy a Hyundai without one of these warranties.
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Please--every brand had good and bad dealers and sales people. I've had a sales person cop an attitude with me regarding a Nissan Sentra. Until you do a scientific poll of all dealerships of all brands, this is merely your "impression", and not at all a fact.

It's true that there are bad apples with any brand, but the upmarket German brands, for years, had more than their share of indifferent, snobby sales people. In fact, for decades, arrogance was one of the hallmarks of the German auto industry. A classic example was Ferdinand Piech......VW chairman, who ran VW with a dictatorial hand, and was largely responsible for the diesel-cheating scandal. He ordered his engineers to meet the diesel-emission standards any way possible, whether legal or illegal. We saw the result.
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