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Old 05-15-19, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430 View Post
Would seem that black would lower costs? It's expensive to have components keyed to the color of the vehicle. Take a LS430 for example, down to the caps on the door handles. They're like $38 each for a knub. If they were simply black pieces of plastic on all cars, imho easier to get used parts and cheaper. Drip rails are another...
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I don't think it's cost cutting. It will likely cost more to have a painted fender, plus a molded plastic lip with fasteners/clips than it costs to just have a painted fender.
I love cost cutting discussion and analytics. No plastic trim would be cheapest. One color second cheapest. Multi color would be more expensive.
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Old 05-15-19, 12:31 PM
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The Audi Allroad (raised) wagon comes with black cladding. You can order one with body color cladding from the factory for a cool $1,000. Quite a few owners have them painted at a body shop for a lot less.
I would not pay extra.
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Old 05-15-19, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430 View Post
You're talking to someone who went looking for a new screw for a GM fender liner. They cost $4.81 each list price. You can get 38% off online, so ~$2.98 + $9.95 shipping = $12.93. Or you go to the dealer, get it for $5.10 with sales tax. Not a typo--ridiculous. I refused to pay that for a single screw. It's black, and looks like a wood screw. If Lowe's had it would be 23 cents.

What I ended up doing was to get knock-offs. No, not eBay coming from overseas, but rather, a OEM that makes classic car parts and for all we know they supply GM. I think I ended up with 25 for $12 plus another $4 for shipping? And yes, I only needed 1, but it was the principle.
LMAO, so you ended up paying $11 un-necessarily (you could have bought one screw for $5, instead you bought 25 for $16)?! You need to start placing a value on your time...! I would've paid $5 at the dealership and been done with it.
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Old 05-15-19, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill View Post
I would not pay extra.
I wouldn't either. Just not worth it in my opinion.
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Old 05-15-19, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley View Post
Good finds of the GLE, signdetres. Wonder if it's some type of option package on those? These pics of 2019's show without it? Note: I think the white one in my pic below is an AMG (GLE 43)??

The previous generation GLE did not use plastic fender trim. The GLE Coupe of that generation does however make use of it. For the new generation 2020 GLE models, the standard cars do use the plastic arches but optioning the AMG sport appearance package, as shown below, reverts back to body colored arches.


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Old 05-15-19, 01:17 PM
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I think the existence of the plastic trim is to prevent the rusting that invariably occurs on the rolled fender edge as cars age. I've seen it on both the Audi Q7 and BMW X5, but is body color on both. Once the manufacturer has decided to add the plastic (which does cost more than not having it), making it black is cost cutting.
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Old 05-15-19, 01:28 PM
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as a design element the wheel arch / fender caps / cladding is probably there to downplay the ludicrous vertical height from wheel arch to hood on many (primarily u.s. brand) models. the new ecosport comes to mind, but curiously they don't use the caps, they try to downplay the height with actual fender bulges... plus the black plastic 'skirt' around the whole car.

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Old 05-15-19, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29 View Post
Once the manufacturer has decided to add the plastic (which does cost more than not having it), making it black is cost cutting.
agreed. jeep grand cherokee has black plastic on lower end trim levels, and body color on upper level.
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Old 05-15-19, 01:30 PM
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Don't like this trend, either. Cheapens the look of the car. It's not cost cutting, it actually costs more to add that crap to the car.
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Old 05-15-19, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by IS350jet View Post
Don't like this trend, either. Cheapens the look of the car. It's not cost cutting, it actually costs more to add that crap to the car.
Agree, I first really discovered it when my mom asked me to look at a 2019 Highlander (Limited) for my feedback. I went to a dealership and told the sales person I wanted to see a Limited... when they took me to the vehicle I assumed they took me to the wrong trim because it had the black plastic around the wheel well. I had always associated that with the lower-end trim cars over the years so was surprised to see it on the upper end trim. Then I started noticing it on tons of other manufacturers as well. I'm not a fan of it, especially on the lighter-colored cars.
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Old 05-15-19, 02:32 PM
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I don't think it is anything new, it's been around for years. But adding it to a Luxury vehicle is wrong imo. My 2015 Lexus NX had it around the wheel wells and I hated it. Some here in the NX forum even painted over it.
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Its "rugged"
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Old 05-15-19, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2 View Post
The Audi Allroad (raised) wagon comes with black cladding. You can order one with body color cladding from the factory for a cool $1,000. Quite a few owners have them painted at a body shop for a lot less.
Although each to his/her own, that, to me, simply doesn't make sense. The black cladding is there for a reason. The AllRoad is essentially the German Outback...a bad-weather wagon meant for driving in snow, ice, winter conditions, and salt/abrasives on the road that can damage or deteriorate painted surfaces.
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I think it looks cheap, I don't like it at all.
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Old 05-15-19, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kense View Post
I think it looks cheap, I don't like it at all.
Fine, I respect your opinion....but deteriorated lower-body paint from salt and abrasives (which it protects from) looks even worse.
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