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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 07:32 PM
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The last one I sampled (though it was, admittedly, several years ago), steered and drove like a school bus. The interior was El-Plastico-cheap throughout. And its ride, while not particularly harsh, was not what I would call smooth, especially compared to, say, the competition from Ford or GM. The only more unpleasant full-size SUV I've sampled was the absolutely terrible Ford Excursion, which was a 7500-lb. .
I didnt mind it. Has that wonderful adaptive variable suspension from the LX570. Same engine. Lots of features. Build for the long haul.

But it this is not really about the Sequoia.
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Old Feb 21, 2019 | 07:35 PM
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I didnt mind it. Has that wonderful adaptive variable suspension from the LX570. Same engine. Lots of features. Build for the long haul.

But it this is not really about the Sequoia.

Agreed...back to topic. I hope to get some pictures of Mike's new Expedition in a couple of days, after the snow melts off, the roads dry out, the salt is gone, and he gets it washed and cleaned. (I rubbed out an abrasion-mark in the paint today, for him, with the SCRATCH-OUT). It will also give me a chance to try out my new i-Phone-7 camera, if and when I figure out how to use it LOL.
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 07:12 AM
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As expensive as these larger vehicles are, its no surprise at all that people are keeping them longer.
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 07:15 AM
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if he could keep that late 90s ford that was unreliable that long, imagine this 2018 one, new truck in 2038?
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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ArmyofOne
As expensive as these larger vehicles are, its no surprise at all that people are keeping them longer.
Unfortunately, his old 2003 Expedition was clearly showing its age....constant nickel-and-dime stuff deteriorating and needing repair or replacement, and occasional larger repairs. There comes a point where, IMO, it is no longer practical to try and keep a clunker running....particularly in my area, where you have to pass a Virginia State Safety inspection every year and EPA-mandated emissions tests every other year. While I am able to help him do minor stuff, neither of us has the kind of training and/or ASE-certification you have, to do larger things, from your experience both in and out of the Army. And, besides, our condo association does not allow major vehicle repairs to be done in the private parking spaces.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The only more unpleasant full-size SUV I've sampled was the absolutely terrible Ford Excursion, which was a 7500-lb. dinosaur that was clearly too large and heavy for its suspension/underpinnings, which, in my experience in the test-drive, made it unstable to the point of being borderline-dangerous at highway speeds and/or road-irregularities.
That doesn't seem right, given that it was literally built on the Super Duty chassis.

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That doesn't seem right, given that it was literally built on the Super Duty chassis.
The Excursion was just a Super Duty with a SUV body. People must of liked it. Was designed to do hard work.
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I've talked to very few owners who didn't love their Excursion, and I know people miss it. But the fuel prices of the late 2000's killed it, and i doubt Ford is in a hurry to cannibalize Expedition sales by bringing it back.
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Originally Posted by BrettJacks
I've talked to very few owners who didn't love their Excursion, and I know people miss it. But the fuel prices of the late 2000's killed it, and i doubt Ford is in a hurry to cannibalize Expedition sales by bringing it back.
For sure. I am sure there some that hated, while there are some that loved it. I doubt we would ever see on again, but you never know.
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The Excursion was a beast. Loved that thing. Choice of V10 or turbo diesel V8. It was like captaining the Enterprise
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Originally Posted by BrettJacks
That doesn't seem right, given that it was literally built on the Super Duty chassis.
Have you ever driven one? The one I sampled rocked back and forth and side-to-side over bumps (tire pressure was OK), and, just before coming to a full-stop, the large nose would drop and bounce back up again....you could actually watch the bobbing from the drivers' seat. I though it was one of the worst-handling SUVs's I ever tried, even by large-SUV standards.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I though it was one of the worst-handling SUVs's I ever tried, even by large-SUV standards.
You have clearly made your point. However, I would say the Police and Firemen attending 911 emergencies would prove you wrong.



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Old Feb 22, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
You have clearly made your point. However, I would say the Police and Firemen attending 911 emergencies would prove you wrong.



Incorrect. What you posted does not prove me wrong. It only proves that some jurisdictions bought them for their fire/police departments.

Have YOU ever driven one?
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I've never driven an Excursion but I have driven Super Duty trucks of that same era. I thought they handled fine.
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Fine, apparently we can agree to disagree. No sense arguing all night. Anyhow, the topic is the Expedition, not the Excursion....partly my fault for bringing it up.
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