Or how ridiculously gigantic modern pickups are now and growing every generation for no reason. I've seen a few in person and they fit somewhere between a Tacoma and a Tundra.

 

I think it works better as an SUV. I'd rather have the R1S...if it was more established, I would buy this over the Model Y but seems I can't get one until 2023 and I don't really have a dealer network near me. I hope they succeed thoughl

 

He's worth at least 70 million so I'd say his investment advice is quite valuable. Not that it has a single thing to do with the content of his video did you watch it?

 

RIVN market cap - $120B
LCID- $72B
....

F - $78B
GM - 89B

True insanity. I'm just glad I jumped on NIO @ <$15.

 

I think the whole reason Tesla, Lucid, Rivian and others are valued as they are is precisely because they are NOT Ford, GM or any other more traditional manufacturer and are free from the the constraints that all the legacies are stuck with.

 

Eh I said screw it and bought 1000 shares. Cheap enough that who cares

 

more than 1% charge per mile for towing, going up in elevation and 40 deg weather. Hardly gained any during downhill. Estimated 1.5 hours to charge

 

Wow. Those are some really bad results... For towing, ICE/hybrids/PHEVs at least currently would probably be the best option until better battery tech is introduced.

 

At the 15:00 minute mark. Shows why people will not buy BEVs in mass. What a messy lifestyle for these two. At one point he believes the electric station is actually throttling his charge.

That is a nice interior. Looks more mid size. Great performance

 

Rivian was only able to go about 150 miles (estimated range of 280 at 100% battery for the spec they had) towing a 2,000 lb trailer. I don't think that is very good considering how much it could potentially tow, which is 11,000 lbs. What is the average weight people tow with a truck that can tow that much? And how far do they usually go? I can see this being great for someone who tows short distances, but anything longer distance would be better with an ICE truck. They compared the new Tundra and estimated it could do about 470 miles.

 

Wonder what the range will be for the Tundra Hybrid

 

I think the use case for these goes right over some posters’ heads. No one is buying these for distance towing. They are buying them because they are quicker, quieter, more advanced and generally more interesting than any ICE competitor. That they can tow (and heavy loads at that) is a bonus. It is not the primary reason these are bought.

I have a confirmed order for an electric truck which should deliver this year, and I have a few other vehicles that can tow my boat (and heavier loads) long distances or between our properties.

When something doesn’t make sense, it’s a pretty good indication that you were never in the target market.

 

90% of the trucks I see never tow. Ever. If you tow frequently, go buy something else.

 

Car and Driver did a tow test. Can’t imagine the range at full tow load. Will be interesting to see Ford F-150 hybrid or the Tundra hybrid towing. Rivian is not even a full size truck.
Car & Driver

 

Towing or Long Distance, let alone towing long distance, is still a tough use case for any EV, Tesla included.