joshthorsc

At least Toyota is willing to recall it and replace it. There's a lot of car manufacturers out there who will rather turn a blind eye.

coolsaber

If toyota is acknowledging a problem with their powertrain, the issue must be severe. Toyota like any other company is in the business of ignoring any and all complaints just like Ford with their DCTs. I understand and commend Toyotas decision, but I would be foolish to believe that this was Toyota acting on high standards purely, but more so someone pushing their hand to issue a recall ASAP.

signdetres

Good for Toyota - own a mistake and fix it quickly instead of forcing your loyal customers to be stuck with it like many other automakers have done. I for one am all-in favor of this new CVT. Have you seen how quickly it simulates gear shifts when you shift in manual mode? It's like the CVT equivalent of a dual-clutch. Incredibly impressive feat of engineering by Toyota. When you consider the fact that 1 Corolla is sold every 15 seconds (worldwide), 3,400 is nothing. 1.34 million Corollas were sold in 2015 for reference.

signdetres

Have there been problems with Toyota powertrains in the past that went ignored?

coolsaber

oil burning motors and evap systems in early 2000s come to mind.

spwolf

lol, Toyota issues TSBs are recalls all the time... that is why their reliability ratings are so high, they fix issues early on.

spwolf

that seems like heavy over-reaction... we are talking about 3400 units, so it must be issue in first weeks of production.

UX250h powertrain is also brand new. Heck, I bet 6 speed manual is also new...

Hoovey689

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The new 2.0 engine perhaps, but the PSD (eCVT) is very venerable.

spwolf

There are changes there just like there are changes in the new CVT... They had plenty of recalls with HSD, and still it is bullet proof in general. So I dont see why new CVT wont be either.

Johnhav430

Don't tell Scotty.

Hoovey689

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coolsaber

Their reliability has been high I agree, however i personally think so, as a result of keeping things the same for years. Case in point walk into a 2019 GX460, look at the cruise control stalk. Now jump into a 1999 Camry and look at the same stalk. The vehicles are produced 20 years apart, yet things are the same. The amount of time to learn what doesnt work is super high value.

TSBs are a stop gap fix on certain issues, there are issues like the oil burning or evap that were not fully addressed in certain models. And since a TSB only applies withing warranty, kind of pushed aside.

Johnhav430

No matter what the case, resolving problems is imho in everyone's best interests. You don't want to be like GM and have a dirty voltage issue last from the 1990's to 2012, and simply up a bulb to attempt to solve repeated blowing out and burning of sockets.

It's hard to pinpoint exactly what motivates car cos. Toyota, I would think reputation is a major factor. How many times is the word "reliability" used on this forum, being related to Toyota motor? Seems like they got nailed over floor mats, which say BMW could care less about. The factory BMW E92 floor mat gets caught in the clutch, why? Because most cars are autos. Toyota, however, bailed on the Takata problems (maybe there simply would not be enough cars to cover). Honda and BMW were standouts.

BMW provided indefinite loaners over the Takata scandal to every owner who requested one (I had one 4 1/2 mos), and also for a blower motor pigtail for lack of a better word. That one, which took 7/10 of an hour to install, kind of surprised me. I didn't feel I needed a loaner for that, if my blower fails, I don't have heat or a/c. If it catches fire, I evacuate the vehicle, but that's exaggeration imho. Yet they provided loaners for that issue for almost 10 mos.

So as some have said here, nip the issue in the bud right off the bat. It's good for Toyota, it's good for customers.

coolsaber

+1 as long as they are correcting the issue all well and good.

riredale

A recall is very expensive so it drives the company to do extensive testing beforehand and then to quickly identify and fix issues once the model is released.

The Toyota "sudden acceleration" issue caused damage to the brand name, though if I recall correctly there was NO technical issue. It must have driven senior Japanese management crazy to see the litigious US legal system in action, chasing ghosts.

So you respond quickly to tamp down negative press ASAP.